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		<description><![CDATA[This is the second part of the interview I held with my husband Aditya's parents (you can find <a title="Intercultural Interviews: Indian Parents’ Perspective (Part One)" href="http://gorigirl.com/intercultural-interviews-indian-parents-perspective-part-one">Part One here</a>).  This part starts off with an interlude on Maa and Baba's first meeting for their "semi-arranged" marriage, then continues on the topic of their first impressions of me. I finally got them to discuss some negatives: what they find difficult in having a non-Indian daughter-in-law and my (apparently) one fault. We also discussed some of the things they dislike about general American culture (as it relates to interpersonal relationships), and ended with some advice Maa and Baba have for intercultural couples, both generally and for those having some difficulty with Indian in-laws.]]></description>
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This is the second part of the interview I held with my husband Aditya&#8217;s parents (you can find <a title="Intercultural Interviews: Indian Parents’ Perspective (Part One)" href="http://gorigirl.com/intercultural-interviews-indian-parents-perspective-part-one">Part One here</a>).  This part starts off with an interlude on Maa and Baba&#8217;s first meeting for their &#8220;semi-arranged&#8221; marriage, then continues on the topic of their first impressions of me. I finally got them to discuss some negatives: what they find difficult in having a non-Indian daughter-in-law and my (apparently) one fault. We also discussed some of the things they dislike about general American culture (as it relates to interpersonal relationships), and ended with some advice Maa and Baba have for intercultural couples, both generally and for those having some difficulty with Indian in-laws. <span id="more-849"></span>Technical details: I transcribed the interview from a sound recording, and have only edited (in square brackets) for clarity or in keeping with Maa &amp; Baba’s wishes for certain things to be “off the record”. My comments and notes post-transcription are in red.</p>
<p><strong>Aditya: So what is that story that you were telling, of when Baba came to meet you?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>That was our semi-arranged marriage!</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Semi? Why &#8220;semi&#8221;? Absolutely arranged!</p>
<p><strong>Baba:</strong> I saw her, and<em> then</em> I said okay. It was not arranged. So semi.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>They put an advertisement in paper, that their son is not getting married for last ten years, they’re searching for daughter-in-law.</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>And my in-laws had a daughter who was not being married for ten years, said, “Okay, this is a right match!”</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>So, when they came, they didn’t tell me… Maybe my parents knew it, but I didn’t know that they were coming. So it was Sunday, and I had lot of hair… The whole week I had to go to college, so I didn’t wash my hair properly, because in India you can’t go with, uh, hair loose, you have to tie it up. Nowadays everything is gone, but that time it was there. So Sunday is my oil massaging day. So from top to bottom I used to apply oil.</p>
<p><strong>Aditya: </strong>And Maa’s hair was down to her knees almost.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>So, they came at three o’clock. And I took bath at twelve o’clock, I think. And I didn’t do shampoo also. And you can just imagine…</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>You know, that is why I got married to her, just because of her hair. Because I could not see anything else [to judge]!</p>
<p>&lt;laughter&gt;</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>And in India, when some girl is to, uh, be presented to her in-laws, they put on a lot of makeup, good saris, jewelry. But I was wearing a cotton sari, normal, because I didn’t know that they were coming. And my sister-in-laws, all, my parents, couldn’t [dress me up], because I am very strict about that. What I am, I am, there’s no makeup or something. And, I used to wear a bangle on my right hand. On my left hand, I used to wear a watch, a wrist-watch. I was at home, so I didn’t wear that also. And I met him like that!</p>
<p><strong>GG: </strong>So, after you both met, did you discuss anything with each other?</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>Oh, yeah, we had a talk, between us. But I don’t think that it was, uh, like an examination. We just discussed what I feel, what did she feel that particular day? That’s all.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>And then for food, at the restaurant, I didn’t take it. Because my mother told me, don’t go with anybody in the restaurant. So he was asking, “Are you hungry?” “No,” [I said].</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>So I sat down, I ate.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>And he ate. When we came back to our home, from [movie] picture, I was telling my mother, “Give me some food, I am very hungry!” And he says, “Why didn’t you take?!” But how could I explain to him at that time?</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>That was my golden era.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">I cannot imagine participating in the process of an arranged marriage &#8211; not that I think that they&#8217;re necessarily bad, but I just can&#8217;t picture what it would be like. Maa &amp; Baba&#8217;s story of their first meeting was, therefore, quite enlightening as to some of the particulars. It all strikes me as something out of a Jane Austin novel.<br />
</span></h5>
<p><strong>GG: Okay, next question!</strong></p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>This is off the syllabus?</p>
<p><strong>GG: Yes! So, did Aditya discuss marrying me with you?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Actually, I told him, you ought to get married. If you want to stay together, you ought to get married. That I told him.</p>
<p><strong>Aditya: </strong>I mean, it was a variety of things. I think it started… I mean, obviously, after graduating, I moved to California, and I was looking for housing. We talked about it. And obviously I asked before I proposed to GG.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>He didn’t <em>ask</em>, we discussed.</p>
<p><strong>Aditya: </strong>Yeah, we discussed, it was more like that.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>I said, if you want to be with her, then get married. You take the responsibility.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">The idea of &#8220;responsibility&#8221; being a key part of a marriage is something I&#8217;m still noodling over. I&#8217;ll admit I&#8217;ve never thought of it in exactly those terms.<br />
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<p><strong>GG: Did your expectations of what you expect for a daughter-in-law change after Aditya said he was marrying me?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Aditya: What I think she is asking is, would you have different expectations if she was Indian?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>No. And that should be in block capitals! Because I told you, my expectations for my daughter-in-law is the same whether it is Bhabi, Punjabi, or GG, American.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">Bhabi is Aditya&#8217;s sister-in-law, i.e. Baba&#8217;s other daughter-in-law, for those just tuning in.</span></h5>
<p><strong>GG: So, what would you say was something I did that impressed you early on?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Everything.</p>
<p><strong>Aditya: </strong>I think they spoke the highest of your card-playing ability.</p>
<p><strong>GG: </strong>Card-playing?</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Yeah, card-playing…</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>Not card-playing ability, the way you picked up the game. You know, pick-up is more important for playing the game. If your pick up is good, whether it is cards or studies, that is a quality, and of course, which I feel did impress on the first day.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">Like Aditya, I come from a family where playing cards is a key part of family bonding. Aditya&#8217;s family&#8217;s game is <a href="http://www.pagat.com/jass/29.html">Twenty-Nine</a>, while my family plays a house version of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rummy">Rummy</a> and <a href="http://www.pagat.com/exact/ohhell.html">Oh Hell</a>. Being decent at cards in both of our families &#8211; or at least enjoying playing cards &#8211; is a pretty important trait</span>.</h5>
<p><strong>Maa:</strong> Even when we came back from the cabin, you cooked for us, a nice —</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>No, that was afterwards, but, my point is, the first day.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>But, that time, they were not even engaged. So I liked it very much.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">I made a spicy spagetti with chicken sausage (since Maa &amp; Baba don&#8217;t eat beef or pork), a simple salad, and some out-of-the-box cake for the family at Aditya&#8217;s brother&#8217;s house while they were off on a day trip &#8211; really the meal was nothing special or complicated. I think Maa might have been secretly afraid that the rumors of Americans were true, and I couldn&#8217;t cook a thing.</span></h5>
<p><strong>Aditya: </strong>What about Bear?</p>
<p><strong>GG: </strong>My dad’s dog.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Oh, very sweet, very nice.</p>
<p><strong>Aditya: </strong>Baba was taking pictures all evening of Bear, there were more pictures of Bear than of GG.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>I liked your mother, your grandmother… And I was very much impressed by you.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">Maa met my materal grandmother while I was back in the Midwest, attending college. Granmama is a French-Candian immigrant, altho she&#8217;s lived in the US for most of her life.<br />
</span></h5>
<p><strong>GG: Anything I did that surprised you, or maybe somewhat negative? Something you thought was kind of odd?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>Actually, should I tell you? Yes, I’m not so critical in little things. If otherwise it is acceptable, it is okay.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Yes, everybody has some problems.</p>
<p><strong>Baba:</strong> If everybody is happy, I feel that it’s good enough. I don’t see things so critical.</p>
<p><strong>GG: Okay, so, now, Aditya &amp; I are married… What is the hardest part about having a non-Bengali, or non-Indian daughter-in-law?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>From my side, the only difficulty is to express myself.</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>The language.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>The language. The hardest thing. Nothing else.</p>
<p><strong>Aditya: </strong>(sarcastically) GG has been working hard on her Hindi.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">I think I have a mental block against learning languages. I&#8217;m still struggling to keep a schedule of regular studying &#8211; but hearing this was a big motivator.</span></h5>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>I don’t… Whether you are GG, or someone else, it would have not have made much of difference if that person were the same as GG. Because I don’t, uh, everybody has some shortcoming, some strong points. So if I forget about the rest of the things, only see the small shortcomings here or there, mentally I will not be happy. And I do not want to be unhappy.</p>
<p><strong>GG: </strong>But is there any difficulty you see, maybe in customs I don’t know, or…</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Even I don’t know a lot of customs. So I don’t care for that.</p>
<p><strong>GG: </strong>Or my family doesn’t have the same expectations that an Indian family would…</p>
<p><strong>Maa:</strong> How would I know, how do we know what your family expectations? We don’t know…</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>One thing I know, GG, that I have got my own way of looking at things. I can lead my life in that lane/line/road – whatever you want to call it, but I cannot make others follow it. Therefore, yes, often things happen even between me and Maa, where we think differently, we argue, feel bad. Maa stops talking, I stop talking, but that is for only a few hours. Because we know that this has to be there, because [we are] two persons.</p>
<p>Similarly, if I am very critical to anybody, it is making an unhappy relation, and no one is happy by doing so. It is better if we can enjoy each other’s company, which is good, overlook the shortcomings, the things that we don’t like. If I know that GG does not like something, I would like to avoid those things as much as possible. I have not vacuumed your bedroom, because I have felt that you would not like disturbed whatever arrangement or, uh, disarrangement&#8230;</p>
<p>&lt;general laughter&gt;</p>
<p>&#8230;that you have got. It is something like that, I have avoided it.  But had it been my world, anybody could have done it for me and I would be happy. It is something like that. I try to avoid, don’t see things, which I feel may cause a bit of uneasiness between two persons.</p>
<p><strong>GG: Is there anything that has been a positive, an unexpected thing that you’ve learned or experienced from having an American daughter-in-law?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>Should I say now, one-to-one? Ready? Sure? I had the impression that Americans are generally very clean …that they keep things in order. But here, I have found…</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">And the truth comes out! This was the only critical thing I could get Maa &amp; Baba to admit.</span></h5>
<p><strong>GG: </strong>It’s as much your son as me!</p>
<p><strong>Aditya: </strong>GG, don’t even go there. You know, Thalith used to be our roommate, first when the three of us lived together, and then Thalith, GG, Ivan, and Claudia [lived together]. Thalith always used to make fun of us because the house was dirty and he used to blame me. But after I graduated, and he lived just with her, then he realized that what he actually saw there was her mess minus my cleaning up. You know, I visited GG twice, surprised her by arriving there before she expected me to be there. And the first day that I got there GG was sitting on the bed. And to get on the bed you could only put one step on the ground from the door. So you had to make a hop on one foot towards the bed, and then from that foot – you didn’t have space to put down the second foot – you had to hop off of that foot straight onto the bed. So everything you see is, always remember, that is GG minus my cleaning. Don’t say that it’s equally my fault.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">While it is true that my college apartment room was that messy (I was working on my senior thesis!), it is complete falsehood that Aditya is a net benefit in the cleaning  department; during the same time period Aditya&#8217;s studio in California was nearly as messy. Really, we&#8217;re just messy (and busy) people.<br />
</span></h5>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>What to say…</p>
<p><strong>GG: </strong>It’s okay to say unflattering things. Whatever is on your mind.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Actually, I love you very much, all qualities, but the only thing, I can’t tolerate this much of untidiness. No, I think that, uh, you are since your childhood away from your mother, maybe that has affected you. Because only a mother can teach a daughter…</p>
<p><strong>GG: </strong>My mother is also very messy.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Maybe, maybe because of that.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>What you will do, please, you [GG] do the dusting and cleaning, let him do the vacuuming. Yes, do it together. That way you will enjoy it. Otherwise you’re doing it here, he’s doing it there. When Aditya told me that last time that Amy [the basement tenant] was here, that after Amy left, we’ll do the basement as the TV room or something like that. How is it possible that somebody is playing there, she’s playing here in her computer? This is not right. Whenever you’ll be at home, stay together. That is the first thing between husband and wife. You’ll see that in our house also, wherever Baba is I try to be, yes, because I don’t get to …</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>You see, when I want to avoid her, she’s always there! … Have you gone to church? Have you seen a dirty church?</p>
<p><strong>GG: </strong>I don’t go to church.. I’ve only been a few times when I was little.</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>Okay, the ten times you’ve gone to church in your life, have you ever seen a dirty, stinking church?</p>
<p><strong>GG: </strong>No&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>Why? Cleanliness is next to godliness! And it is your house. You want that, you know, welcoming look. A house that is messy cannot be a happy house.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">Point. Aditya and I really do need to stop living like we&#8217;re still in college.<br />
</span></h5>
<p><strong>GG: Okay, last two questions. Is there any advice that you would give to an American, or another Westerner who is dating an Indian, and is worried maybe that the parents won’t approve or anything like that?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Yes. There is something. Like [in] India, we are naturally very family-oriented. It is in our, uhh, in our heritage. But in Western country, people are so advanced, so educated, so independent, that sometimes, they feel, that…</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>They become islands.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Yes, they become islands.  The space, their conception of personal space makes them very lonely, gradually. Everybody has some defects, some shortcomings – that is a girl also and a boy. Don’t look at the shortcomings. If you like somebody, if you love somebody, try to, both of, try to compromise on some points. If you can give only will you have something. Always if you – uh, not you, I mean general you – that giving away is much better than taking away.</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>No, actually, her question was actually if an Indian boy or a girl is dating an American boy or girl, what advice would be given to them. That is what she asked.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>That is the advice! You have to give something to take something!</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>No, no, no… That you are talking about harmony in married life or in relationship. I would say that if they are dating an Indian boy, don’t just go by the boy. Unless he has decided to get out of the family altogether – cut off, I mean – not that [he is] in touch with them, they come and go… Otherwise, the boy should make it clear exactly how his parents or her parents would react to such a decision.</p>
<p>Like, you two are very nice. When you come to India, we [could have] decided no, you have to be like Indian girl, you have to put on a lot of oil, get up early in the morning, five o’clock, take a bath, go to temple, do puja, come back, then you go to the kitchen, cook food.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>That type of family is still there in India.</p>
<p><strong>Baba:</strong> A lot of them! The ones that – I have been reading your blog – most of the people they have got that type of problem when they go abroad, to their in-laws place. Therefore, it must be absolutely clear in mind [of the couple] what the expectations [are] at the other end. And if it is so, they should not go to India at all. Because a lot of disharmony would be created on such visits.  And as far as we are concerned, as I told you, we are much more liberal, we know and we have got faith on our children, and things are different. I don’t think that one can, uh, judge parents just by seeing our family.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Even uh, Indian girls get lots of problems.</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>Indian girls get problems at their in-laws place because the culture, the practices are different.</p>
<p><strong>GG: Would you suggest for a couple in that situation, that they just go along with the parents, or they say “no, we aren’t going to do that. She will not be getting up at five am”? Or some sort of compromise?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>No, no, I would say if they’re going to live in US they should live like in US. They cannot live in US as [in] India. If you are going to live in India, live like India[ns]. You should not change your lifestyle because you are in a different country [for a short visit], you better live the style of the country [that] you live in.</p>
<p><strong>GG: Anything else you want to share?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Maa:</strong> No, I told you that space is very…</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>Space should not make–</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Make a man lonely.</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>No. That should not, I would say, divide a couple.</p>
<p><strong>Aditya:</strong> I think it’s all about, when it comes to intercultural relationships, or really any relationship, it’s all about setting expectations. Like you should never get to the point where there is, like… In most Indian families parents are part of the married family. And you should never get to the point where those stakeholders are not on the same page.</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>That’s what I’m saying. And once – often courtship, like salesmanship – often the boy or the girl will tell little bit of half-truth. They will tell the facts just to impress, or hide things that maybe one [will] realize when you go to India. So that should be quite clear, how it is like at the other end. Like earlier, people used to get married, not to Americans, but a lot of people used to get married to the European girls, mainly British. And most of these people are sufficiently moneyed, but they were not like Rajas. But they used to give the impression that they were like small Rajas. And after the wedding they used to go, they used to find that things are not like what they heard during their courtship, and they had a lot of trouble during those days. The same way that I feel that one should be quite truthful, and put both sides on the right side of the picture, and then decide.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>And husband and wife relationship should very, very based on honesty.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">And that was the end of the interview.<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[I sat down with Aditya's parents, Maa and Baba, a few nights ago with a list of eight questions to find out their views on American culture and intercultural relationships... and we ended up talking for over an hour, thus necessitating a Part One and a Part Two. Today's portion focuses on the early days: their worries on sending their youngest son, Aditya, to a foreign country, thoughts on American culture, dating, and their first interactions with me. ]]></description>
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<p>I sat down with Aditya&#8217;s parents, Maa and Baba, a few nights ago with a list of eight questions to find out their views on American culture and intercultural relationships&#8230; and we ended up talking for over an hour, thus necessitating a Part One and a Part Two. Today&#8217;s portion focuses on the early days: their worries on sending their youngest son, Aditya, to a foreign country, thoughts on American culture, dating, and their first interactions with me. <span id="more-838"></span>Technical details: I transcribed the interview from a sound recording, and have only edited (in square brackets) for clarity or in keeping with Maa &amp; Baba&#8217;s wishes for certain things to be &#8220;off the record&#8221;. My comments and notes post-transcription are in red.</p>
<p><strong>GG: What were your concerns when Aditya came to the US to study?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Whether he’ll be able to cope with everything; [I was] concerned with his studies. And we didn’t have that much of money to support him, so whether he would be able to support himself.</p>
<p><strong>Baba:</strong> Firstly, the financial part. Secondly, he had never lived away from home – this was the first time he’d be living away from home. Thirdly, it was a strange country for him, the surroundings, the education system, language, food, everything was different! And I knew that he would be able to cope with the things, but I had doubted how easily he’d be able to cope up with it.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">Aditya was the first member of his family to travel to the US. Maa and Baba first came to visit after his older brother, Dada, also moved to the US, about half way through Aditya&#8217;s college career.</p>
<p></span></h5>
<p><strong>GG: Do you remember what you guys thought of the US then? What your impressions, your ideas of it were?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>Actually, as far as I am concerned, when I came to the US, I was more or less not surprised. I knew the US quite a lot – from movies, from books that I have studied, and I expected it to be more or less like this. The only thing is that I did not expect the US to be so huge as a country.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Actually, when I came for the first time, my whole concern was for Aditya.  So I was not interested in how the US was – [I] only wanted to know how he was.</p>
<p><strong>GG: Did you have any worries about Aditya being at a US university, meeting Americans, maybe dating or falling in love with one of them or anything like that?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>No, I didn’t have any concerns.</p>
<p><strong>GG: Did you think he would date Americans when he came to the US?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>No, I never thought that was an issue. If I liked someone at the right time, right age, <em>I</em> always said yes. Of course, I had certain reservations, and that has not happened.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">*waggles eyebrows at Baba&#8217;s phrasing*</p>
<p></span></h5>
<p><strong>GG: </strong>What reservations?</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>That is off the record.</p>
<p>&lt;Aditya laughs&gt;</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;"><em>For</em> the record, I still haven&#8217;t heard what the reservations were</span>.</h5>
<p><strong>GG: Were you <em>aware</em> of his social activities when he was at the university?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>Yes, he used to write, sometimes spoke to his mother… not to me. From what I could gather, I figured I had a fairly good idea of his activities. Of course, some of it was my imagination…</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Nah, I knew only the portion that he used to tell us. But I [only] know half of it.</p>
<p><strong>GG:</strong> So you knew that he had… (to Aditya) how many girlfriends was it?</p>
<p><strong>Aditya: </strong>I told them…</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">Eight girlfriends his first year, I believe, (EIGHT!) and he tossed them all in two weeks or less. Shameless.</p>
<p></span></h5>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>Yeah, he had many [girlfriends] in Delhi also…</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Actually, we are not very much, uh, concerned with children’s girlfriends or boyfriends.</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>As long as you are not doing anything <em>wrong</em>, if your aim, your studies are going properly, I think that there is nothing wrong in having girlfriends. How you take that relation matters… Like, I had in India at one time I knew a lot of girls – and of course, my parents were also very liberal. Even today, if I meet them, if I get a chance to meet them, there’s nothing wrong in this, I always felt. Yes, if somebody has some bad intention, that is different. For that…</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Nah, it is very natural. There is nothing to worry about. If I know my children, they will choose the right thing.</p>
<p><strong>Baba:</strong> No, as long as a child knows what is right or wrong, there is no need for the parent to worry. And I, at least, have the confidence in my children; they can recognize right.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>And in that way my impression of Aditya is very high.</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>That every mother has!</p>
<p><strong>Maa:</strong> Nah, he’s a moralist type.</p>
<p><strong>Baba:</strong> Yes, he’s a moralist type.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">I suspect &#8211; but do not know one way or another for sure &#8211; that the attitude that Maa &amp; Baba express here is pretty unusual for mainstream Indian culture. Heck, I suspect it&#8217;s pretty unusual for the majority of American parents of teenagers too. Anyways, with the basics of Maa &amp; Baba&#8217;s views on dating established, we now changed tacks to start discussing Aditya&#8217;s relationship with me, which was more serious than those with previous girlfriends (i.e. I lasted more than two weeks).</p>
<p></span></h5>
<p><strong>GG: Do you remember when he told you he was dating me? Do you remember what he said?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Baba:</strong> Yes.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Yes. When you two had some difference of opinion, and I told him that this girl is a … in our language, <a title="Saraswati" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saraswati">Saraswati</a>, it means goddess of learning &#8211; she looks like that.</p>
<p><strong>Aditya:</strong> This was when we were broken up.</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>Maa said that you better make up!</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">You can read my take on first meeting Aditya&#8217;s parents <a title="Meeting the Desi Parents" href="http://gorigirl.com/meeting-the-desi-parents">here</a>. </span><span style="color: #800000;">In short, when I first met Maa, Aditya and I had downgraded our relationship to &#8220;an icy friendship&#8221; due to quarreling too much.</p>
<p></span></h5>
<p><strong>Aditya: </strong>By the way, the only reason that Baba and I didn’t talk over the phone while I was at the university was because Baba telephone conversations are always telegraphic.</p>
<p>&lt;general laughter &gt;</p>
<p>The first question he asks you is “How are you?”, and by the time you have said, “I’m good” the conversation is over and the phone has been hung up.</p>
<p><strong>Maa:</strong> [He’s like that] with everybody.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">Yes, yes he is.</p>
<p></span></h5>
<p><strong>Aditya:</strong> Yes, with everybody. When we were growing up… I mean, I don’t even know how common telephones were when they were growing up. When we were growing up, Baba used to be away, you know, and we had to do <a href="http://www.wordwebonline.com/en/TRUNKCALL">trunk calls</a>. And in the middle of the night, it’d be super expensive, and Maa would be running down the stairs at 11:30 pm, because, you know, there’s a trunk call with Baba.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">For Americans or others scratching their heads, a trunk call is the British English (and, apparently, Indian English) word for a long-distance call, especially one routed by a real, live operator.</p>
<p></span></h5>
<p><strong>GG: So what were your expectations for a daughter-in-law? Before you knew about me or anything – just general expectations.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Maa:</strong> I want only the good relationship and to look after my children – daughter-in-law or son-in-law. Look after my children, and a good relationship with us. Nothing else.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">For the following anecdote, Bhabi is Aditya&#8217;s sister-in-law, Dada is his older brother, and Didi is his older sister.<br />
</span></h5>
<p><strong>Baba:</strong> You see, before Bhabi’s marriage [to Dada]… Bhabi was in school, Dada was in hostel, they had not met each other. They were in class 7 or 8. And she was learning some dance in Calcutta. She came to our house because Didi was in the same class – Bhabi had missed some classes, and she came to make up those missed classes. I was working away from Calcutta, and I used to come [home] during the weekends. I came&#8230; it was a duplex, our house was. I was climbing the stairs and I saw Bhabi. And when she came, I said, “Who is this girl?” And Maa said, “Didi’s dance mate.” And I said, “I would like to get a girl like that as daughter-in-law [for Dada]”&#8230; By God’s grace, that has happened. Of course it happened after…<br />
&lt;argument starts over how long &gt;<br />
Five, six years, let us say. So after that, I always expected that Aditya’s wife would be something like Bhabi. In all respects.</p>
<p><strong>GG: </strong>Punjabi?</p>
<p><strong>Baba:</strong> No, not Punjabi. I don’t look at Bhabi as Punjabi. See, this language or religion – I feel everything is the same. So I don’t look at a Punjabi or American or European… My thing is &#8211; “similar” means &#8211; she should be intelligent, sharing, and good in studies, plus she should be something where we are comfortable, my son is comfortable, and she should be someone who gets into a relation[ship] for lifelong.</p>
<p>Because there are a lot of cases I have found where people don’t – the girls or the boys – don’t think beyond certain time: four years, five years, ten years. But I always felt that my children should get a partner for the whole life. Not part time or, I would say, “live together” type. That is the type of girl I expected. She should be presentable, so that people don’t say – don’t take it – that she doesn’t fit into the family. I feel that that is a bigger thing, because I still feel family is much bigger than self. And that was what [were] my expectations, and I feel that I am quite happy on that one respect. The rest of the things, small things, would be different between individuals. Those better to not be discussed, because everyone has their own way of looking at things. But my general expectations for my daughter-in-law or son-in-law were the same. It is not that [the expectations] for daughter-in-law different [from] son-in-law.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">While I suspect that Baba cares a bit more for what others think than I do, I must admit I was quite pleased with his perspective on this &#8211; I really couldn&#8217;t ask for a more considerate and reasonable set of expectations.</p>
<p></span></h5>
<p><strong>GG: What do you remember Aditya telling you about me before you met me? Like on the phone.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Baba:</strong> He didn’t tell me anything!</p>
<p><strong>GG: </strong>Aditya, is this true?</p>
<p><strong>Aditya: </strong>Because Baba’s phone calls are so short!</p>
<p><strong>Baba:</strong> That has already been said. Whatever he said –</p>
<p><strong>GG:</strong> But he went back to India one summer.</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>That is true, but Aditya is very close to – my children are all more close to &#8211; Maa for such things, for such topics. So they always spoke to her, and she only told me that much that was…</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Screened!</p>
<p>&lt;general laughter&gt;</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>Yeah, little bit. I always got a filtered version.</p>
<p><strong>GG: Okay, Maa, what do you remember Aditya telling you about me?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Maa:</strong> In 2006 when he came, he told me. And I told him it is okay, make your studies properly, and then you can do whatever you feel like, I don’t mind. And what else…?</p>
<p><strong>Aditya: </strong>Nah, we talked about it when I was in Madras, right?</p>
<p><strong>Maa:</strong> So long time back… That time I [hadn’t yet met] her, right? So I told [him] that I did not know what type of girl she is. I was not very keen… Hmmm… I am very scared that time, because he should complete his studies and things. Because in our [country], in India, a girl or boy’s future is very… We are very concerned about their future. All parents [are this way]. So I was a little scared that he may not—</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>– do well in his exams or things like that.</p>
<p><strong>GG: Is there anything you <em>wish</em> Aditya had told, that might have helped your fears more or your concerns?</strong></p>
<p>&lt;general confusion over the meaning of the question&gt;</p>
<p><strong>Okay, before you met me, maybe you had some concerns… Was there anything that Aditya could have told you, that could have helped those concerns?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Baba:</strong> No, I don’t think with me [there were any concerns].</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Yeah, I was concerned. Because he told [me] that you have some health problem. So I was concerned if it was very serious type. I don’t know anything. So I thought that health problem was very very… &lt;worried hand gesture&gt;.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">I have a genetic blood-clotting disorder &#8211; which I only found out my freshman year while dating Aditya &#8211; which will be a lifelong concern, although it is perfectly managable with a little daily medication and awareness. At that time, however, it was a new-ish thing, and neither Aditya nor I were sure of how serious it would turn out to be. Luckily, it falls more on the side of, say, adult asthma or a severe allergy in seriousness than, for example, diabetes.</p>
<p></span></h5>
<p><strong>Aditya: </strong>See, part of the problem – the reason I spoke more to Maa than to Baba – [was] because I always did feel that… Baba and I had talked about things in passing, not detailed things… I always felt that Baba would be supportive, no matter what decision I took, you know? Like I always say, Sachin gets all this advice before he goes in to bat, and once he goes in to bat, it’s up to him, he has to make the decisions. And I always felt that Baba would be supportive over whatever decision I took. I was more concerned about how Maa would react. That’s why I talked more with Maa about it than with Baba.</p>
<p><strong>GG: </strong>(to Maa) Does that surprise you?</p>
<p><strong>Maa:</strong> No, [I’m] not surprised. But I was concerned when he said that she has some health problem – that was why I was concerned. But when I have seen you, I told him, that she is the best for you.</p>
<p><strong>GG: Okay. Anything else that you thought when you met me for the first time?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>I felt that you were very, um, that your approach was very nice. Your way of talking, your behavior, I liked it very much. Even I told my relations in India, “She is a nice girl.”</p>
<p><strong>GG: So, on some of the blogs I read, some of the Indian parents aren’t very happy about their sons or their daughters dating an American. So people give out various advice, like “you should do this when you meet them”, or “you should do that”. For instance, one of the things that they advise is that you should dress up very nicely, maybe wear a sari when you meet the parents for the first time.</strong></p>
<p>&lt;Baba makes a wincing face&gt;</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>I am also no. Even to Bhabi, I told [that it was not necessary] … You are an American girl, but even to Bhabi…</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>If my daughter can put on trousers, can go [out] in skirts, what is wrong with my daughter-in-law – someone else’s daughter [doing that sort of thing]. That is how I look at things.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">Aditya&#8217;s parents are typically very pleased when I wear Indian-style clothing, but I have never felt any pressure &#8211; even while in India &#8211; to wear Indian clothing instead of jeans and a t-shirt.</p>
<p></span></h5>
<p><strong>Maa:</strong> Even to Bhabi I said that, you can wear whatever you like in my house. One thing I told her, when people from village come –</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>Yeah, social functions that is, it is better that you put on sari. It is not a compulsion [compulsory] to put on saris, she may put on salwar kameeze also. But [with a sari] that is easier to blend in, because everyone else will be in sari. If you come in sari you will feel a little [more] comfortable.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">While I think you can fit into Indian cities just fine in Western clothes, I felt more comfortable &#8211; and slightly less conspicuous &#8211; wearing salwar kameezes or saris in more rural towns.</p>
<p></span></h5>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>And, nah, one thing I told Bhabi, when people from villages, remote villages – we have got relations there – so when they will come it is better to wear saris. Because they will come for half an hour, for one hour. They will see that this girl is settled in [well] with this family, and their impression is good for the daughter-in-law.</p>
<p><strong>Baba:</strong> Because I feel, that people should talk good about our, my family, and of course my daughter-in-law is part of it.</p>
<p><strong>Maa:</strong> Even my daughter follows the same thing, it is not [just] for my daughter-in-law.</p>
<p><strong>Aditya: Did you have any concerns, that, you know, other people, people who would be visiting from remote villages… Did you have any concerns that they would see the relationship as a bad thing, and would think less of the family?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>Actually, in our family and among our relations, I have got the impression that generally I do right things. Therefore, in my house, if something happens – what I have accepted – generally the general impression is that that is right. So I never had any doubt that if I am comfortable, and if my daughter-in-law is comfortable with me, that others would have anything to say. So that advantage I have. In my family or my relations, I have a different, I would say, position. And it puts my daughter-in-law in a little elevated position.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>In our family nobody told anything. Even neighbors… Well, I’m not really sure, I’ve never had any concerns [about what they say].</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>I have the one advantage that often, when things go wrong, and two parties speak, and to one party I have said okay, the other party, they also accept it. So that way, I know that if I have accepted something nobody would say or make a remark that would be negative.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Everybody says that, “If he agrees, than it is okay.”</p>
<p><strong>Baba:</strong> I knew that my children will not make a mistake or take a wrong position knowingly. And if even they have taken a wrong position knowingly, I would scold them in private, but I would stand by them.</p>
<p><strong>GG: Baba, do you want to say something about the first time you met me? I came with Bear [my father’s golden lab]…</strong></p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>Yeah, what I remember, is that I had my own expectations. And I feel that I was quite happy that you met most of those.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>But not all…</p>
<p><strong>Baba:</strong> Hmmm, but, mostly. Because one this is that you were very easy-going, you were not stiff, you didn’t want to show off, that is what impressed me most.  Generally what happens is that, I feel, courtship is a process of selling.</p>
<p><strong>GG: </strong>To Aditya or to you?</p>
<p><strong>Baba:</strong> No, anybody. Why? You see, when it is not marriage, it is courtship… I am meeting somebody for two or three hours. I put on my best dress, my best perfume, comb my hair thrice, twice shave. That is because I want to create an impression. But in married life, what we find, early in the morning before brushing your teeth you meet your husband. So that is a completely different [thing]. Before you get into that relation,  you are trying to make an impression &#8211; like packaging of any consumer goods… The packaging is good, you accept it, only after opening do you know, uh-oh, mistake, mistake. &lt;Baba shakes his finger&gt;</p>
<p>&lt;general laughter&gt;</p>
<p>Okay. Therefore, generally, when somebody comes on such thing, my impression is that they try to impress. If elders are present in India that happens. Like when I went to meet Maa, the whole family was looking at me [to see] what I [would] do.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>But, you know…</p>
<p><strong>Baba:</strong> That is different! We will talk to you afterwards. You will get your chance, okay!</p>
<p>&lt;general laughter&gt;</p>
<p>Anything that is possible! The meals that the would-be bride has not cooked, they are produced as if she has cooked. The handiwork that she has not done, they will try to [show it off]. And if she has done, they will come running, “She has done it!” They will make her sit…</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>Earlier…</p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>Okay, nowadays they don’t do it, but something like it still goes on. Therefore, I always say, that salesmanship part of it I wanted to eliminate. After that, the person I can meet, he or she is the right person. When you came, you came like a girl next door, you were very easy-going, you didn’t have the hesitation for the first time, meeting a foreigner, [meeting] Aditya’s father, and when you have got all those horrible pictures of Indian in-laws…</p>
<p>&lt;general laughter&gt;</p>
<p>Yet, after that, the way you came and reacted was quite good.</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">I wish I <em>had</em> arrived like the girl next door &#8211; instead, I arrived a bit sweaty from the mile &amp; a half walk from my dad&#8217;s house to Dada&#8217;s place, where Maa and Baba were staying. But Bear got a nice long walk out of it, and I got bonus points for bringing the dog along.<br />
</span></h5>
<p><strong>GG: And so what expectation didn’t I meet? Maa said that I didn’t meet all the expectations.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Baba: </strong>No, that is what Maa has said. I have not said it as of yet.</p>
<p><strong>Maa: </strong>That I will say after the interview. Off record!</p>
<h5><span style="color: #800000;">I ended up badgering them into telling at least one expectation I failed to meet &#8220;on record&#8221; &#8211; but that will have to wait for the next part of the interview!</span></h5>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a short few days the only hope I'll have in the blearly mornings is that it might just be Bagel Monday in the office.  When I crawl out of my sleep coma, you see, sophisticated details like which day of the week it is are completely beyond me - any day <em>could be</em> Bagel Monday. My primitave mind is only concerned with two things: getting our dogs, <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/gorigirl/3554987394/">Kajol &#38; Panda</a> to shut up and stop wrestling on my larynx and/or bladder, and what sustenance awaits me that might be a good enough incentive to get out of bed.

This past month, though, Bagel Monday has diminished in significance, and glorious 20 Ounces of Ginger Tea <em>Everyday</em> (With Biscuits!) has replaced it as my main morning motivator.

I love it when my in-laws are staying with us.

Note that I didn't say visiting us - that would imply that Aditya's parents are house guests while they're here, while, <a title="Wait, I thought this was MY house" href="http://gorigirl.com/wait-i-thought-this-was-my-house">as Baba says, it's their home too</a>. Granted, our daily life changes some when Maa and Baba are here in Washington DC, the morning tea being just one example, but the changes are more minor than many people who hear my in-laws are in-town would expect. Since we're coming to the close of Maa &#38; Baba's second extended stay out here (they were here last year in the late summer, and will be visiting once more this year), I thought that it'd be good time to write about the "typical day" in our household while Aditya's parents are here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a short few days the only hope I&#8217;ll have in the bleary mornings is that it might just be Bagel Monday in the office.  When I crawl out of my sleep coma, you see, sophisticated details like which day of the week it is are completely beyond me &#8211; any day <em>could be</em> Bagel Monday. My primitave mind is only concerned with two things: getting our dogs, <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/gorigirl/3554987394/">Kajol &amp; Panda</a> to shut up and stop wrestling on my larynx and/or bladder, and what sustenance awaits me that might be a good enough incentive to get out of bed.</p>
<p>This past month, though, Bagel Monday has diminished in significance, and glorious 20 Ounces of Ginger Tea <em>Everyday</em> (With Biscuits!) has replaced it as my main morning motivator.</p>
<p>I love it when my in-laws are staying with us.</p>
<p>Note that I didn&#8217;t say visiting us &#8211; that would imply that Aditya&#8217;s parents are house guests while they&#8217;re here, while, <a title="Wait, I thought this was MY house" href="http://gorigirl.com/wait-i-thought-this-was-my-house">as Baba says, it&#8217;s their home too</a>. Granted, our daily life changes some when Maa and Baba are here in Washington DC, the morning tea being just one example, but the changes are more minor than many people who hear my in-laws are in-town would expect. Since we&#8217;re coming to the close of Maa &amp; Baba&#8217;s second extended stay out here (they were here last year in the late summer, and will be visiting once more this year), I thought that it&#8217;d be good time to write about the &#8220;typical day&#8221; in our household while Aditya&#8217;s parents are here.<span id="more-831"></span></p>
<h3>A regular ol&#8217; day</h3>
<p>As previously mentioned, when I wake up in the morning, there is always (magically!) a beer stein&#8217;s worth of ginger tea waiting for me. Aditya&#8217;s and my cell alarms both go off at seven am, because we like to pretend we&#8217;ll get up and do something worthwhile, like go running with the dogs. Instead, we watch the dogs pretend that they&#8217;re  WWF fighters until Maa knocks on the door around seven thirty letting us know that the tea is ready. I&#8217;m not altogether sure when Maa &amp; Baba wake up, although I&#8217;ve heard rumors of unholy risings at 0&#8242;butt thirty.</p>
<p>Aditya and I will stumble across the hall to the other bedroom, where our tea is waiting on a tray Maa &amp; Baba&#8217;s bed, along with biscuits to nibble on &#8211; typically we have some semi-bland Indian cookies, like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parle-G">Parle-Gs</a>, although today we had the all-American <a href="http://www.verybestbaking.com/recipes/detail.aspx?ID=18476">Tollhouse Chocolate Chip Cookies</a> I baked on Sunday (secret tip: always put in half a teaspoon extra vanilla). While sipping our morning tea we discuss the day&#8217;s plans, the state of Indian cricket, and recent news, including what Baba has already read on BBCnews.com that morning. Well, Aditya and his parents talk &#8211; about 50/50 in English and Bengali &#8211; and I attempt to gather my wits. I think today mostly consisted of Aditya trying to explain why <a title="CNN's Anderson Cooper vs. Sarah Palin's Spokeswomen" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0XRot6ydGM&amp;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com%2Farchives%2F2009%2F07%2Fuhh.php&amp;feature=player_embedded">this video</a> and the phrase &#8220;the world is <em>literlly </em>her oyster&#8221; are so funny.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll chat until a little after eight, then Aditya and I will hurry to get ready for the work day. Last summer Maa and Baba traveled into DC once or twice a week to visit the various Smithsonians &#8211; which meant that bathroom real estate was a prime commodity in the mornings-, but this time they&#8217;ve hung around at home the majority of the time. By a quarter to nine Aditya is out the door to face the horror that is I-66 during rush hour, and I follow a half an hour or so later, after a quick walk &amp; <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/gorigirl/3554987514/in/set-72157612141097985/">&#8220;tennis ball session&#8221;</a> with the pups.</p>
<p>What happens at the house while Aditya and I are at work is largely a mystery to me, something that I piece together from various clues after returning home. The house often looks much cleaner than when I left. Dishes for dinner are already cooked (which makes it somewhat difficult to learn new Indian recipes from Maa). A newspaper will be on the table, despite the fact that we don&#8217;t have a subscription. The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burn_Notice">Burn Notice</a> dvd that arrived the night before from Netflix will inevitably be ready to go out again (Maa has developed an addiction to that show that borders on the level of <a href="http://gorigirl.com/the-in-laws-have-landed">my CoffyBite addiction</a>).</p>
<p>Aditya and I get off work sometime between six and seven thirty and are met at the door by more chai &amp; chatting. Often this will transition to a <a href="http://www.pagat.com/jass/29.html">game of Twenty Nine</a>, which is pretty much my favorite partner-based card game ever.  Yesterday we played a cutthroat game until ten or so before finally stopping to heat up dinner, and I learned a new Bengali cuss word, courtesy of Baba after I dealt him yet another amazingly awful hand.</p>
<p>Dinner is normally some combination of lentils, rice, and one or two chicken/fish/prawns/vegetable Indian dishes, prepared by Maa. It&#8217;s always amazing, altho a bit richer than I&#8217;m used to &#8211; I&#8217;ve gained 6 pounds in the past month. By eleven Maa &amp; Baba retire to bed, while Aditya and I hang out, catch some TV, and likely work a bit on our laptops until midnight. And at some point in there the dogs get a long walk or a jog if the weather is cool and my willpower &amp; injured leg are feeling up to it (the lack of jogging may also have something to do with those 6 pounds&#8230;).</p>
<p>I feel pretty bad that we&#8217;ve been working such long hours, but there&#8217;s not much we can do about it. While we haven&#8217;t been able to take days off during the week this summer for day trips, we&#8217;ve been going out to eat at unique ethnic restaurants in the evenings. Ethiopian from <a href="http://www.urbanspoon.com/nf/7/651/623/DC/U-Street-Shaw/Ethiopian-Eritrean-Restaurants">DC&#8217;s famous U Street</a> has been the favorite so far. Weekends have also been pretty chill, with a focus on running various errands and recovering from the week, although we did get into DC to check out the <a href="http://twitpic.com/96ty6">Hope Diamond</a> at the Natural History Museum &amp; the fireworks over the Fourth of July weekend.</p>
<p>Maa and Baba leave for California on Thursday, so you can expect some more regular blogging from then on. Last night, after our marathon Twenty Nine session, they sat down for an interview on <em>their</em> take on intercultural relationships, which I&#8217;ll be posting as soon as I can transcribe it.  I also plan on writing some more on their time here, and the lessons I&#8217;ve learned from having them stay.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aditya's parents are visiting us again for the second time - they arrived late last week - which has cut into my blogging time as we catch up with them.  Of course, it also means <em>plenty</em> of blogging material is being generated with our temporary extended family living situation. The last time they visited I only got out one <a title="Wait, I thought this was MY house" href="http://gorigirl.com/wait-i-thought-this-was-my-house">substantive post</a> on the topic - I hope to do a bit better this time. Of course, that post - which was on the (eek!) <em>order</em> that Aditya's parents tried to bring to our home, disrupting my chaotic-but-somehow-functional mess of a system - still haunts us. Today Baba and Maa dusted and vacuumed the house while we at work - and then jokingly pointed out after I arrived home that my piles of mess were <em>exactly</em> where I left them, just cleaner.

(Little do they know that  if I am stymied in blogging about their dastardly actions of cleaning our house &#38; cooking delicious meals I have no problem in getting irrationally upset about some other minor issue. For example: the fridge has been reorganized without my express permission, and the dishwasher was inefficiently loaded, resulting in one less cup being washed than if <em>I</em> had loaded it. I'm <em>still </em>reeling!)

Since I haven't had a chance to sit down and think through a post lately, I thought I'd share with you the transcript I've typed up in spare minutes from an NPR segment called <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10184979">Intercultural Relationships: Can They Work?</a>. I'm not a professional transcriber, so there may be errors - but I figured something was better than nothing for those of you who can't (or don't like to) listen to podcasts. The segment (and my post title) was developed from an article in <a href="http://www.eastwestmagazine.com/index.php">East West Magazine</a>. The article, which you can find <a title="To Hug or Not to Hug" href="http://www.jenniferkim.net/index_files/hug.htm">here</a>, is quite complimentary to the NPR segment, and I encourage you to read it as well as the transcript below. I've bolded the parts I find particularly interesting, and will post my thoughts on it tomorrow in the comments section.]]></description>
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Aditya&#8217;s parents are visiting us again for the second time &#8211; they arrived late last week &#8211; which has cut into my blogging time as we catch up with them.  Of course, it also means <em>plenty</em> of blogging material is being generated with our temporary extended family living situation. The last time they visited I only got out one <a title="Wait, I thought this was MY house" href="http://gorigirl.com/wait-i-thought-this-was-my-house">substantive post</a> on the topic &#8211; I hope to do a bit better this time. Of course, that post &#8211; which was on the (eek!) <em>order</em> that Aditya&#8217;s parents tried to bring to our home, disrupting my chaotic-but-somehow-functional mess of a system &#8211; still haunts us. Today Baba and Maa dusted and vacuumed the house while we at work &#8211; and then jokingly pointed out after I arrived home that my piles of mess were <em>exactly</em> where I left them, just cleaner.</p>
<p>(Little do they know that  if I am stymied in blogging about their dastardly actions of cleaning our house &amp; cooking delicious meals I have no problem in getting irrationally upset about some other minor issue. For example: the fridge has been reorganized without my express permission, and the dishwasher was inefficiently loaded, resulting in one less cup being washed than if <em>I</em> had loaded it. I&#8217;m <em>still </em>reeling!)</p>
<p>Since I haven&#8217;t had a chance to sit down and think through a post lately, I thought I&#8217;d share with you the transcript I&#8217;ve typed up in spare minutes from an NPR segment called <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10184979">Intercultural Relationships: Can They Work?</a>. I&#8217;m not a professional transcriber, so there may be errors &#8211; but I figured something was better than nothing for those of you who can&#8217;t (or don&#8217;t like to) listen to podcasts. The segment (and my post title) was developed from an article in <a href="http://www.eastwestmagazine.com/index.php">East West Magazine</a>. The article, which you can find <a title="To Hug or Not to Hug" href="http://www.jenniferkim.net/index_files/hug.htm">here</a>, is quite complimentary to the NPR segment, and I encourage you to read it as well as the transcript below. I&#8217;ve bolded the parts I find particularly interesting, and will post my thoughts on it tomorrow in the comments section.<span id="more-819"></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>NPR:</strong> </span>It’s time for a regular visit with one of our cultural coaches. Today: “You’re marrying <em>him</em>?” Wedding season is around the corner; brides and grooms will be blushing their way down aisles across America. So what better time to ask an expert about what you might need to know if you’re heading to commitment with a person with a different racial or ethnic background? We got this idea from our friends at East West Magazine; the April/May issue has a feature called “To hug or not to hug” about how to handle that all-important meeting with the parents.</p>
<p>And joining us now from Phoenix is Anita Malik. She is editor of East West Magazine. And from her office in Poughkeepsie, New York, we’re pleased to be joined by Lubna Somjee, a psychologist; she’s quoted in the article. Thanks for being here ladies!</p>
<p>Anita, why did you commission this article? You must have been hearing about this from readers or perhaps from personal experience?</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #800000;">Anita:</span> </strong>A little bit of both. Actually, simply put, interracial marriages and couplings are growing at a very increasing rate and we tend to focus with that a lot with the magazine, but had never done anything where &#8211; how do you deal with this within your own family and with your parents? And that was something we were hearing from readers, that, you know, <strong>it’s great to know that the statistics are there, and that this is happening, but how do we deal with it in our own lives, with our own unique circumstances?</strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #800000;">NPR:</span> </strong>And Dr. Somjee, you are offering tips &#8211; or you offered some tips in the magazine &#8211; but in the years in which you’ve been practicing, and you’ve worked with couples around these issues, are there some classic cultural clashes that you’ve seen?</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Dr. Somjee:</strong></span> Yes, I mean, I’ve definitely seen some classic cultural clashes. Although many times, people have been able to sort of work through them. <strong>One of the classic issues is when neither parties have sort of prepped themselves for what to expect when they meet the parents. They think they have, but they really haven’t.</strong> Although most of the time those meetings have gone fairly well, in spite of.</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>NPR:</strong></span> Is that really the case? I just wonder whether, over the course of your practice, do most of the couples that come to you, do they eventually stay together, or do you see couples breaking up because of these differences?</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Dr. Somjee:</strong> </span>Most of the couples I see do stay together, but I would not say that it was very rare that some couples would break up. For example, a young couple I worked with had an interracial union and met each other’s families, and it wasn’t until they met each other’s families that it sort of punctuated for them how different their backgrounds were. And <strong>they came home, and for the first time had a much more serious, in-depth discussion of how their culture impacts their every day lives and realized how different their views were on a lot of things. And unfortunately, for that couple, their differences were irreconcilable.</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>NPR: </strong></span>Anita, you mention in the article, I’m sorry, which I know you didn’t write, but, you know, you edited it, that in every culture meeting the parents can be kind of fraught with anxiety, but in the Asian culture, in couples where there may be an Asian or Asian-American partner, it can be particularly stressful. Why is that?</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Anita:</strong></span> Asian immigrant parents typically have a very set view of who their children should marry. It’s a different type of relationship, but every family has their own traditions, and sometimes a lot of that becomes very, very specific to what the parents want. It’s just a very different child-parent relationship. It gets a little bit more tricky, and so it can be difficult.</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>NPR:</strong></span> What were some of the scenarios that were described in the article? I thought it was hilarious, actually…</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #800000;">Anita:</span> </strong>There’s a lot of humor to this too, and<strong> I think that’s the important lesson: that you need to be able to actually laugh at yourself when you make &#8211; you’re going to make faux pas when you meet the parents. </strong>But the title of the piece actually comes from one scenario where both parts of the couple were Asian, from two different countries. And one family was very warm… the parents wanted to hug everybody, and the other family couldn’t really handle the hugs. And so that became an issue between the couple, and they finally came to a point where they said, &#8220;Well, this is how my family is going to be, and this is how your family is going to be, and they’re going to have to work it out.&#8221;</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>NPR:</strong></span> So, Dr. Somjee, help us here. In a situation like that, where the parents are meeting for the first time, what advice do you offer to make it go smoothly? Or maybe, maybe making it go smoothly isn’t the whole point of the thing, just to be honest. I don’t know – tell us.</p>
<p><span style="color: #888888;"><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Dr. Somjee:</strong></span> </span>When you’re meeting someone’s family, knowing what their ethnic background is, or their racial background or religion obviously is important, but it’s only a first basic step. And really, <strong>the most important thing to understand is, what is that family’s relationship to each of its cultural variables. Otherwise you kinda get on a slippery slope in terms of making assumptions to stereotyping.</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>NPR: </strong></span>So how would that information best be acquired? Do you try to be very explicit with the partner and say, “Alright, are your parents huggers or not? Will they expect me to bring a present? If so, what kind?”</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Dr. Somjee:</strong></span> There’s a couple ways to do that. One is, you know, <strong>get a sense of what the expectations of the meeting are from your significant other.</strong> Is it going to be a casual or formal get together? But the other piece of it is, your significant other is often steeped in their own culture so things that may be commonplace to them, they may not even think to tell you. And <strong>I think one of the best ways to get information from your significant other is through storytelling. Try to have your significant other tell you stories that illustrate different occasions in your family, or different traditions in the family.</strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #800000;">NPR:</span> </strong>I have an email that I wanted to share with both of you, ladies. And it says:</p>
<p>“This might be a good question for your coach. I just had a second date with a lovely professional woman who was born in and raised in Sapporo, Japan. She now works in the same East Coast city that I do. Our third date is this weekend. I’m a professional African-American man. What should I know about the Asian approach to dating? Is there such a thing? The first date ended in her bowing, when in Rome, I thought, so I bowed too. The second date ended with a hug &amp; a smile, so I hugged her and smiled back. So far, so good I’m thinking. We’re able to talk for hours… but what do I need to keep in mind?”</p>
<p>So, who wants to start, Anita, is this a common scenario among readers?</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #800000;">Anita:</span> </strong>Yeah, I think so. Apparently she’s a little more traditional. It sounds like she actually has immigrated from Japan and not necessarily born here and in that case, I think he just really needs to ask her. But I would say, speak to her about how her family would feel… ahead of time.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #800000;">NPR:</span> </strong>Interesting. Dr. Somjee, what do you think?</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #800000;">Dr. Somjee:</span> </strong>Part of it depends on, are you dating to date, or are you dating to marry? Because if someone is asked that question &amp; is scared off by it, at least you know where they are in terms of their dating and what they want from it.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #800000;">NPR:</span> So what I’m hearing you say is, “ask the questions sooner rather than later”.</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Dr. Somjee: </strong></span>Absolutely.</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>NPR:</strong></span> I’m so glad I’m married.</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Anita:</strong></span> Hard, isn’t it, this dating thing.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #800000;">NPR:</span> </strong>It is hard! You all have my respect. Dr. Somjee, I understand you are also interculturally married. If it’s not too personal, can you offer any guidelines from your personal experience?</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Dr. Somjee: </strong></span>Yes, I’ve been married and in a relationship with my husband for about ten years. He is white and I am South Asian and I actually come from a community where arranged marriages are absolutely still the norm. <strong>So when my husband was to meet my parents, I prepped myself… and I prepped my parents.</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>NPR:</strong></span> What about persons who perhaps weren’t welcomed so warmly into the fold? How would you advise them to move beyond that?</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>Dr. Somjee:</strong> </span>One thing is, you know, you may have an opportunity to meet the family again and again. And if so, take advantage of those opportunities by getting to know them better. <strong>You know, unfortunately, there may be some families who ultimately say, “You know what, we cannot do this. No matter how nice you may be, no matter how much we like you in general, this is not something we can accept in our family.” And at this point you as a couple have to decide whether you’re willing to take the risk, and those are hard questions you’ll have to ask yourself before you even start this process.</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><strong>NPR:</strong> </span>But, hard questions that have to be asked.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #800000;">Dr. Somjee:</span> </strong>Yeah.</p>
<p>[End Transcript]</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear everyone thoughts on <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10184979">this NPR piece</a>, and <a href="http://www.jenniferkim.net/index_files/hug.htm">the accompying article</a> from East West Magazine. Good advice, bad advice? Is &#8220;ask questions sooner rather than later&#8221; a good policy to follow? Anyone tried storytelling as a way to learn about family customs?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently, Aisha, a new reader, asked for some advice from any and all on her personal situation. However, she put in her request on a post from awhile back, where a lot of you are unlikely to see it. So, with her permission, I'm pulling up the original comment (slightly edited) into a post with the hope that all of you can chime in with any advice you might have. In short, Aisha is a Sikh woman studying at a university in Great Britain, who recently broke off her three year relationship with her white boyfriend because of an increasing feeling of guilt regarding how her parents would feel about the relationship - <em>if</em> they knew about it. She's asking for advice on how people (or their significant others) have gathered up the courage to tell their parents about a relationship that would be disapproved of, and how they handle feelings of guilt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/oberazzi/318947873/"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-58" title="Questions - by oberazzi" src="http://gorigirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/questions-oberazzi.JPG" alt="Questions - by oberazzi" width="240" height="186" /></a>Recently, Aisha, a new reader, asked for some advice from any and all on her personal situation. However, she put in her request on a post from awhile back, where a lot of you are unlikely to see it. So, with her permission, I&#8217;m pulling up the original comment (slightly edited) into a post with the hope that all of you can chime in with any advice you might have. In short, Aisha is a Sikh woman studying at a university in Great Britain, who recently broke off her three year relationship with her white boyfriend because of an increasing feeling of guilt regarding how her parents would feel about the relationship &#8211; <em>if</em> they knew about it. She&#8217;s asking for advice on how people (or their significant others) have gathered up the courage to tell their parents about a relationship that would be disapproved of, and how they handle feelings of guilt.<br />
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Aisha writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hi, I&#8217;m a Sikh girl and have been going out with my white bf for 3 yrs. I&#8217;ve always known my parents would disapprove&#8230;they&#8217;ve always said if I brought anyone but a Sikh guy home they would want nothing to do with me and the whole family would be disappointed. My fear and guilt have meant that more and more, recently, I haven&#8217;t been happy in my relationship until a few weeks ago when I decided to end it. but now I&#8217;m regretting it and don&#8217;t know what to do!!! He was a wonderful guy who loved me and accepted me completely, but because of the guilt and loyalty I feel towards my family I feel I have lost the only man I will ever be happy with.</p>
<p>Reading all the comments on the post, <a href="http://gorigirl.com/indian-parental-problems-when-your-intercultural-or-interracial-relationship-is-suddenly-an-issue">Indian Parental Problems: When Your Intercultural or Interracial Relationship is Suddenly an Issue</a>, I realize I&#8217;m not alone and that there are others who go through this, but sometimes it feels so lonely. I was just wondering how people come up with the courage to tell their parents in the first place and how do you handle the guilt?!?</p></blockquote>
<p>She later added in an email conversation with me:</p>
<blockquote><p>Here&#8217;s a little bit more about my situation&#8230;my sister(she&#8217;s 20) knows about my bf but refuses to acknowledge him or our relationship, I think out of fear of what it would do to our family! There are already a few intercultural relationships and marriages in our family and although my parents accept them they have made it clear that I can not have one&#8230;which is difficult to understand. I do understand that due to the major cultural differences intercultural relationships can be difficult and from that point of view I can see why parents would want to spare their kids those problems.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll be posting my own thoughts and comments tomorrow, but a good conversation has already started between Aisha and Auroracoda, another commenter here, which I&#8217;m reposting below in the comments.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know we have some ladies (and perhaps gentlemen) here who call the Windy City home. Well, if any of you are interested, I've recently been contacted by a Chicago Tribune's Red Eye reporter, Alexia, about an article she's preparing to write on "meeting the parents." Alexia would like to include an intercultural couple in the article, and was wondering if anyone here would be interested in being interviewed:
<blockquote>I'm a reporter with  the Chicago Tribune's RedEye newspaper, a daily aimed at readers in their 20s  and 30s. I stumbled across your blog while doing research for a story I'm  writing. I'm wondering if you might be able to help with the story, given  your blog's focus on intercultural relationship issues.</blockquote>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know we have some ladies (and perhaps gentlemen) here who call the Windy City home. Well, if any of you are interested, I&#8217;ve recently been contacted by a Chicago Tribune&#8217;s Red Eye reporter, Alexia, about an article she&#8217;s preparing to write on &#8220;meeting the parents.&#8221; Alexia would like to include an intercultural couple in the article, and was wondering if anyone here would be interested in being interviewed:</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m a reporter with  the Chicago Tribune&#8217;s RedEye newspaper, a daily aimed at readers in their 20s  and 30s. I stumbled across your blog while doing research for a story I&#8217;m  writing. I&#8217;m wondering if you might be able to help with the story, given  your blog&#8217;s focus on intercultural relationship issues.<span id="more-158"></span></p>
<p>The story is about  that stage of dating when you must meet your significant other&#8217;s parents. It can  be one of the more stressful encounters for anyone, as you worry that they won&#8217;t  like you, or you won&#8217;t like them, or that you&#8217;ll fail miserably at small talk.  And it seems that dating someone from a very different culture can add yet  another layer of stress. I saw some of the postings on your blog from people who  said their boyfriend&#8217;s Indian parents were less than  welcoming.</p>
<p>While my story isn&#8217;t  specifically about intercultural relationships, I would like to include an  example from an intercultural relationship, as I think it&#8217;s a somewhat unique  experience yet something lots of people can relate to. Do you happen to  know of anyone in Chicago who has had a particularly noteworthy meet-the-parents  experience? Or is there any way to put a note up on your blog to see if  anyone is interested in being in the story? It would be great to find someone  who&#8217;s had an experience that represents some of the challenges and conflicts  (sometimes funny, sometimes serious) that come up when meeting the parents, and  how those issues were ultimately resolved. As I said, the focus of the  story isn&#8217;t intercultural relationships, but I think it would be an important  component. The story as a whole will tell the stories of several  people&#8217;s meet-the-parents experiences, plus give some tips for a smooth  encounter, such as: conversation topics to avoid; good ice breakers; how to  deal with particularly touchy situations (very different political viewpoints,  for example); how important it is for you to get along with your  significant other&#8217;s parents in order for the relationship to  succeed, etc.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for  any help. I&#8217;d ideally like to talk to someone in Chicago who would be willing to  have his/her name in the paper.</p></blockquote>
<p>If anyone is interested, shoot me an email (gorigirl.admin@gmail.com), and I&#8217;ll pass along your contact information to Alexia. I do suggest you check with your significant other, and perhaps his/her parents first, though, just to make sure they&#8217;re comfortable with it. (I only caution this because I&#8217;ve run off half cocked before, sharing all sorts of news with others, only to get the stink eye from Aditya later for telling things he considered private. We all have different comfort levels regarding sharing family stuff.)</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Among the suitcases (!) full of gifts, they brought me two large packages of Coffy Bite.

This is our bedside table, as of three minutes ago.

... I daren't show you the carnage in the trash bin by the computer desk.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Among the suitcases (!) full of gifts, they brought me two large packages of Coffy Bite.</p>
<p>This is our bedside table, as of three minutes ago.</p>
<p>&#8230; I daren&#8217;t show you the carnage in the trash bin by the computer desk.</p>
<p> (Don&#8217;t worry &#8211; I will be posting LOTS more later &#8211; and regularly. However, I spent 13 hours at the office today, putting out metaphorical fires, and my brain is a little numb.)</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ A new reader to the blog, jbf, recently posted her personal story as a detailed comment in the post <a title="Initial Family Resistence to your Intercultural Relationship" href="http://gorigirl.com/initial-family-resistance-to-your-intercultural-relationship">Initial Family Resistance to your Intercultural Relationship</a>. Jbf's problem, however, is a bit different from the one highlighted in that post, so, with her permission, I'm hoisting her comment up into a post of its own, along with the comments from others that followed her original one. I'm sure she'd appreciate any further advice or suggestions you guys have. My own advice will be coming in the comments in a couple of hours. Of course, I'm not sure if I can do any better than what's been said so far - I'm very impressed with the level of thoughtful dialogue occuring here!
<h3>Jbf's story &#38; problems:</h3>
I’m not sure if it is too late to comment on this, but I just came across it while searching for comfort in my situation. My friends and family have given me their support, but in matters of intolerance I do not know if they can offer anything more. I (a 25 yo white American girl) have been dating an Indian guy (born in America to Punjabi parents who moved here 2 years prior) for two years. I will call him B. We both hold graduate degrees and have careers. We met while in graduate school through mutual friends. We lived in different cities but found out that our parents lived only 15 minutes from each other. We quickly became close and decided to start a relationship despite the distance. I met his family very early on. They were receptive and welcomed me into their home. I even spent the night on multiple occasions. When he would come visit me he would bring small gifts from his mother, candles, potpourri, etc. I spent Christmas with his immediate family the last two years (I have not met extended family beyond cousins as dating is not a part of Indian culture). He graduated and started a job about a year ago. Within a few months of this we decided that when I graduated in a year I would find a job where he was and that we would move in together with the intent of being engaged within a year. Although untraditional it was important to both of us to be together in the same place before making such a commitment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="left" title="Questions - by oberazzi" href="http://gorigirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/questions-oberazzi.JPG"><img class="alignleft" src="http://gorigirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/questions-oberazzi.JPG" alt="Questions - by oberazzi" /></a> A new reader to the blog, jbf, recently posted her personal story as a detailed comment in the post <a title="Initial Family Resistence to your Intercultural Relationship" href="http://gorigirl.com/initial-family-resistance-to-your-intercultural-relationship">Initial Family Resistance to your Intercultural Relationship</a>. Jbf&#8217;s problem, however, is a bit different from the one highlighted in that post, so, with her permission, I&#8217;m hoisting her comment up into a post of its own, along with the comments from others that followed her original one. I&#8217;m sure she&#8217;d appreciate any further advice or suggestions you guys have. My own advice will be coming in the comments in a couple of hours. Of course, I&#8217;m not sure if I can do any better than what&#8217;s been said so far &#8211; I&#8217;m very impressed with the level of thoughtful dialogue occuring here!</p>
<h3>Jbf&#8217;s story &amp; problems:</h3>
<p>I’m not sure if it is too late to comment on this, but I just came across it while searching for comfort in my situation. My friends and family have given me their support, but in matters of intolerance I do not know if they can offer anything more. I (a 25 yo white American girl) have been dating an Indian guy (born in America to Punjabi parents who moved here 2 years prior) for two years. I will call him B. We both hold graduate degrees and have careers. We met while in graduate school through mutual friends. We lived in different cities but found out that our parents lived only 15 minutes from each other. We quickly became close and decided to start a relationship despite the distance. I met his family very early on. They were receptive and welcomed me into their home. I even spent the night on multiple occasions. When he would come visit me he would bring small gifts from his mother, candles, potpourri, etc. I spent Christmas with his immediate family the last two years (I have not met extended family beyond cousins as dating is not a part of Indian culture). He graduated and started a job about a year ago. Within a few months of this we decided that when I graduated in a year I would find a job where he was and that we would move in together with the intent of being engaged within a year. Although untraditional it was important to both of us to be together in the same place before making such a commitment.<span id="more-143"></span></p>
<p>At this time (this past Christmas) while making the decision we wanted to include our families. His mom said that she would support us if we had a traditional Sikh wedding and that i always put family first. She stressed that she wanted a daughter and not just a daughter-in-law. She said she spoke to a few people in her family and that they were educated and would support us as long as my home was always open to them. She said this rather harshly, but it was still acceptance, however I knew it would never be the same as if I were brown. His mother has met my mother and sat in my parent’s house and spoke highly of me and told my mom she would want me as a daughter. B and I went over everything we could think of, what a wedding would mean, how we would raise children, expectation from each others families, holidays, etc. He spoke privately to 3 of his cousins and his mom to ask for their support. Everyone said it would be hard, that he should consider his own culture (as he has only dated white women), but that if this is what he wanted they would support him.</p>
<p>B is proud of his culture but does not want to give his children traditional names or go to temple with them. He and I agree with how we would want to start and raise a family. We are not religious people, he is an Atheist and his family has known this long before he and i ever met. B and I have similar morals and life goals. I have made an effort to learn names of people and food in Punjabi. He is not fluent himself. To put it into perspective, his cousins tease him that he is white. I took what his mother said very seriously and am ok with meeting her requests. She has even bought me a sari while in India.</p>
<p>I have accepted a job and moved in with B. It has been one month but we have quickly realized that we made a good choice and that we are happy together (more so than I would have imagined). For the last two months his mom has turned on he and i. She is condescending to me and cold to B. For example he and I were going to friend wedding and upon seeing my black conservative dress, she commented “oh yeah, you guys wear black to weddings” she then turned away from me and did not hug me when we left . She recently went to a white/Punjabi wedding and according to her other son has been very upset since. Last week B was in his parents town on a business trip and saw them for dinner. His mother gave him a letter and would not speak to him. The short page long letter said she has always been there for him and worked hard to raise him. That he owed her something, a marriage to a woman from his own culture and if he did anything other than that she would not be able to support him any longer. After additional dialogue it came out that she will not speak to or see anyone in my family again, that she will not be open to me, and that she will never forgive or open up to my boyfriend again. She says that her family sides with her as well. B’s father considers himself Switzerland and will not speak against our relationship or for it (he is a very passive man, but that is another story). My boyfriend’s only brother says he understands why we may continue our relationship but says that he would put family first and that B should consider it seriously himself. The only thing “wrong” with me is my race.</p>
<p>She has always been manipulative of B. Saying things like “oh you aren’t flying in to visit me this weekend because you don’t love me.” I do understand where she comes from (as best I can). She has an arranged marriage and although not abusive, still not good. Her own mother-in-law and her do not have a relationship. I do not understand how a mother can do this to her son. His whole life he was taught that as long as he was with someone who loved and respected him that he was doing the right thing. In high school he went to school dances with white girls and his mother cried and locked her self in her room for weeks. In college, she apologized and told B she was wrong. But now she calls B sleazy for living with me and is asking him to change his life. I understand “the ripple effect.” A mixed marriage does mean that people in the community will shun B’s parents. It makes me very sad. What hurts me is that she changed her own views. I have nothing else in my new town. I have a year commitment to my company. I am shaken to the core by this. What else is she capable of? There is no happy ending.<br />
The romantic movie ending of the boy choosing his love is not so. On our wedding day his mother and family would not be present and there would not be a chance of a future relationship. My own parents are very sad by this and have offered their support to B and I. My dad’s parents were immigrants from the Ukraine and while they have never treated my American mom the same as the rest of the Ukrainian family, they were still present for my dad’s major life events.</p>
<p>B and I have more talking to work through. He does not know what to do, nor do i. He knows that staying together would be good for us, but he also knows this would offer a lifetime of grief to his mother/family and no one accepting me (which I could endure I think, but I also think I could have a breaking point depending on how his family actually treats me to my face). If it were just the two of us a discussion is not even needed, we would be together. But family is a part of life and marriage.</p>
<p>I should tie this back to the original post, and I suppose I just want to say be prepared for the worst, but that it is an exercise to know how you both really feel. The exercise of learning about each others cultures and discussing each others expectations for life brought us closer together as a couple and opened my eyes to traditions and situations I would not have considered on my own. It sounds like you are both understanding and willing to work with each other, this has been one reason why my relationship has worked so well until now. It’s fun growing together and I wish you the best. It makes me happy that some people can overcome intolerance.</p>
<p><strong>Added:</strong> A year &amp; a half after this post was first published, jbf stopped by with an update in the <a href="http://gorigirl.com/indian-parental-problems-when-your-intercultural-or-interracial-relationship-is-suddenly-an-issue#comment-2895">comments section here</a>.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<strong>Here's a short, positive guest post from contributor NeoKalypso of <a title="Doings &#38; Undoings" href="http://neokalypso.wordpress.com/">Doings &#38; Undoings</a> on family, loss, and understanding.</strong>

 As most of the regular readers know, I’m relatively new to my intercultural relationship with my South Indian guy, R.  Though we’ve known each other for longer, in August we will be celebrating an official year together.

Recently I had a very close family member pass away.  It was an intense, emotional time and R was there for me every step of the way.  He was with me through intimate family gatherings, saw where I grew up, and witnessed my grief over one of the greatest influences of my life.  During all of this, my mind was often elsewhere, I was moody, and I was just all around uncharacteristically, but rightfully, sad.  No one has even been a supportive part of my life like this before—usually I just buck up and find myself dealing with hard stuff alone.  But R was there throughout everything: kind, listening, and not to mention absolutely loved by my family.  He was my rock the whole time.]]></description>
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<p> As most of the regular readers know, I’m relatively new to my intercultural relationship with my South Indian guy, R.  Though we’ve known each other for longer, in August we will be celebrating an official year together.</p>
<p>Recently I had a very close family member pass away.  It was an intense, emotional time and R was there for me every step of the way.  He was with me through intimate family gatherings, saw where I grew up, and witnessed my grief over one of the greatest influences of my life.  During all of this, my mind was often elsewhere, I was moody, and I was just all around uncharacteristically, but rightfully, sad.  No one has even been a supportive part of my life like this before—usually I just buck up and find myself dealing with hard stuff alone.  But R was there throughout everything: kind, listening, and not to mention absolutely loved by my family.  He was my rock the whole time.<span id="more-104"></span></p>
<p>Now that the hardest parts of that time are past, I realize I feel closer to R than ever.  Previously I thought R’s and my love had capped off&#8212;that it couldn’t get any better.  But after making it through such an ordeal I feel even more connected to R in a deeper, uncharted way for me.  I don’t really use religious lingo that much, but I can say that having him in my life has been a true blessing and gift.</p>
<p>When I think about these crucial times in life, when pain is pain, hurt is hurt, and sadness is sadness, I realize love truly knows no boundaries and its what binds you.  R’s parents both wanted me to know that they were sorry for my loss.  When it boils down to it, almost every human can understand the language of loss and love.  Unfortunately, the message can often get lost in translation.</p>
<p>Knowing that R’s parents got the message and responded meant a great deal to me.  It meant more than their reservations and cautionary feelings about me.  If they can acknowledge and understand my hurt in this situation, they will be able to in others as well.  The story between R and I is a pretty clear one: we automatically get so many things about each other and just keep growing in partnership.  The story between R’s parents and I may take some more time to unfold. Though it&#8217;s a work in progress, the story has begun and living it page by page has proved to be far more meaningful than speculating or bemoaning it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 04:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I'm hoisting up from the comments a request for advice from a reader, Travelergal, who's run into a bit of a sticky situation with her Indian boyfriend's family. Her boyfriend, R- just informed his family about her, and, well, the response was not as enthusiastic as one might hope. R- has emailed her about their responses, and now Travelergal is trying to figure out the best course of action:
<blockquote>I need your advice so here goes…my boyfriend recently told his parents about me (he is in India right now so of course he sent me this by email). I am a white American girl and he is a South Indian man. Are their comments normal? What can I do at this point to begin the process of “Slow Acclimation”? I want them to eventually accept me but I have no idea where to begin or what I should do at this point! Any advice would be great!!</blockquote>
Travelergal included her boyfriend's email, which I've put below the fold, along with my responses (in red). I'm sure she'd appreciate all of you chiming in with suggestions, advice, or sympathy as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="right" title="Questions - by oberazzi" href="http://gorigirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/questions-oberazzi.JPG"><img class="alignleft" src="http://gorigirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/questions-oberazzi.JPG" alt="Questions - by oberazzi" /></a>I&#8217;m hoisting up from the comments a request for advice from a reader, Travelergal, who&#8217;s run into a bit of a sticky situation with her Indian boyfriend&#8217;s family. Her boyfriend, R- just informed his family about her, and, well, the response was not as enthusiastic as one might hope. R- has emailed her about their responses, and now Travelergal is trying to figure out the best course of action:</p>
<blockquote><p>I need your advice so here goes…my boyfriend recently told his parents about me (he is in India right now so of course he sent me this by email). I am a white American girl and he is a South Indian man. Are their comments normal? What can I do at this point to begin the process of “Slow Acclimation”? I want them to eventually accept me but I have no idea where to begin or what I should do at this point! Any advice would be great!!</p></blockquote>
<p>Travelergal included her boyfriend&#8217;s email, which I&#8217;ve put below the fold, along with my responses (in red). I&#8217;m sure she&#8217;d appreciate all of you chiming in with suggestions, advice, or sympathy as well.<br />
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<strong>Note: this letter has been edited to remove names at the request of Travelergal</strong></p>
<h3>R-&#8217;s email to Travelergal</h3>
<p>As expected my family was having a set of NO’s to the relationship. I mentioned about it yesterday evening. Everyone was surprised and they were making fun of me.</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">First off, let me say that there&#8217;s never a good &#8211; or easy &#8211; way to tell your family about something you expect them to be upset about. I do think that it was a good idea for R- to wait until a visit to India to tell his family, if only because that way he was able to evaluate his family&#8217;s body language and facial expressions, which can tell you a lot beyond what simple words &amp; tones convey. It&#8217;s unfortunate that they teased him, though perhaps not as unfortunate that the family was so surprised. If at all possible, I think it&#8217;s a good idea to get parents &amp; other family used to the idea that you&#8217;re the type who might do something so &#8220;crazy&#8221; as getting involved in an intercultural romance. Most people don&#8217;t like change, and they especially don&#8217;t like unexpected, surprising changes in their close friends &amp; family. Obviously that ship has sailed for R- &amp; Travelergal, but for anyone else in the same situation, I&#8217;d suggest dropping general hints very early on in your relationship that you hang around people of other cultures &amp; races, etc. A &#8220;we&#8217;re not pleased, but we kinda expected it&#8221; response is most likely preferable to a &#8220;you&#8217;re <em>dating who</em>?!?&#8221; response. </span></p>
<p>Mum:- She was having a totally against it. She had the opinion of American people not sticking to a relationship like Indians do, she said that u would leave me and if that happens then i shall be all alone in my life coz there is lot of disrespect for a second marriage or relationship in India. She said its all a feeling that passes away with time. I was trying to please her that it was not gonna happen like that i wud say it but she would not listen she would stick to her thought of u being white is ending up in divorce. She mentioned about the cultural aspect I tried to explain how u were learning to cook and talk in Telugu. She says that it would put us as “cheap” in society. She has a big NO in her mind</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">Sadly, as R- points out later in the email, Americans are known worldwide for the nation&#8217;s high divorce rate. If you&#8217;re an American dating someone from a family-oriented, traditional-type country, expect for this issue to be raised at least once by a family member. It happened in my relationship too! And if you have no other information about a person, other than their nationality, it makes perfect statistical sense to bet that the American is going to divorce before the Indian will. However, R-&#8217;s mother has more information about Travelergal than just her nationality &#8211; for one thing, R- chose to date <em>her</em> instead of any of the other pretty fishes in the sea. If R- can convince his mother that Travelergal is not your typical American it&#8217;d probably help. Repetition, time, and continuous examples is the key here. The other concerns that R&#8217;s mother raises all strike me as being very typical &#8220;traditional&#8221; concerns: the low possibility of a second marriages, dating/being in a &#8220;love match&#8221; as just a feeling that would pass, and how an intercultural relationship/future divorce is frowned upon in (Indian) society.</span></p>
<p>Sister:- She was also in the same way she started saying that it was all infatuation i was surprised to her response. She said u can’t do this to your family who raised u 25yrs. She was totally doubting about me being a serious guy in this relationship which I’m i told her that I was sure it was not infatuation. She tells me that i had to lose 90% of my life where as u will lose 10% of ur life in this relationship. It was rather surprising to see a youngster not able to dissolve intercultural relationship.</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">R-&#8217;s sister&#8217;s response also strikes me as somewhat typical. And, sadly, it is completely true that, by being in an intercultural relationship with an American, R-&#8217;s family <em>could</em> lose face in their community in India. This is part of what I was talking about in <a title="Who is Affected by your Intercultural Relationship?" href="http://gorigirl.com/who-is-affected-by-your-intercultural-relationship">my post</a> on how others are affected by your intercultural relationship. I&#8217;m not sure exactly what the 90%/10% comment is about &#8211; perhaps R-&#8217;s sister fears that he&#8217;ll lose his Indian culture by living in the US &amp; dating an American? Or she might be referring tot the costs that could occur to each person should the relationship fail.</span></p>
<p>Dad:- Dad was the most understanding. He believes in love he believes in “Love is blind” but he would say that it would disrupt everything. The ripple effect that our relationship has is going to be pain. I tried to tell him that u were really understanding and it would be a sin to just break up or end the relationship due to the fact that “U were american”. He has lot of respect for me and he understands what life is. It is me now thinking about him.</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">I&#8217;m glad R- &amp; Travelergal have one family member sticking up for them. The dad seems like a good dude &#8211; aware of the real problems that will likely result for the family from the intercultural marriage, but somewhat accepting of the relationship nevertheless. I suggest that R &amp; Travelergal address his father&#8217;s concerns about the &#8220;ripple effect&#8221; as much as possible, and try to keep the line of communication open to him. </span></p>
<p>After saying all this i also feel if there is only one person in my family who tried at least to understand me and u how many people in the society and relative would respect u and treat us as the same way as Indian couple.</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">One quick note here: R- &amp; Travelergal <em>aren&#8217;t</em> an Indian couple, so I don&#8217; think they should either expect or <em>want</em> to be treated just like an Indian couple in his family&#8217;s society. Certainly, they should be treated just as respectfully, but allowances &amp; compromises will need to be made by all parties for the real differences in the relationship. When Travelergal eventually meets the family, they need to ready for the fact that she won&#8217;t be as adapt in their world, and she&#8217;ll have to work hard to fit into R-&#8217;s family. </span></p>
<p>They all had “DIVORCE” as their main weapon they would constantly say this and put me to calm as they know i don&#8217;t have any answer for that and unfortunately we are victims of divorce rate in US</p>
<p>I waited for this moment and now that it happened i think its a long process for them to accept u. I think we need to work on this. I do not want to leave u but let us be sure from both the sides to avoid any mishaps in future.</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">It <em>will</em> be a long process to get to acceptance, and I&#8217;m glad that R- realizes this. My husband&#8217;s family took a little while to warm up to the idea of a white daughter-in-law too. I think it&#8217;s very important to understand that his family wasn&#8217;t expecting this to happen, and they&#8217;re probably flailing around blindly. It&#8217;ll take some time for them to process the idea, and incorporate it into their &#8220;vision of reality&#8221;, if you will. I think you can speed this along a bit by showing &amp; telling them ways that they can relate to you. It seems like R- has already stared that by explaining how you&#8217;re studying Telugu &amp; Indian cooking, but only your actions over time will show his words to be true. </span></p>
<p>I’m happy that i have a family who worry about me and see what is there in our relationship for me but it also saddens me when they say it would not work …there r lot of misconceptions/beliefs to be broken and lot of acceptance and approval to be achieved.</p>
<p>ARE U READY?<br />
for all the cultural lessons…all the disrespect with me…all the petty things that u should learn …all norms and conditions that get applied to u when u are around the family … this list is big ..I’m not asking for u to change but i feel there is lot of things u should learn and feel before committing coz i do not want u to be a complete stranger till u meet my parents(if it comes)</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;">This is absolutely wonderful &#8211; I really applaud R-&#8217;s perspective here. It&#8217;s important for both people to be on the same page, and aware of the difficulties that will come from two cultures in one relationship. </span></p>
<p>I’M READY… to face the problems but i need lot of help from u….hope u will think and reply.</p>
<p>Yours lovingly<br />
R-</p>
<h3>My general take on R-&#8217;s family&#8217;s reactions</h3>
<p>Frankly, I&#8217;m not surprised by any of the comments of R-&#8217;s family. These concerns are very &#8220;typical&#8221; for an Indian family, but they&#8217;re valid concerns, and ones you need to address.</p>
<p><strong>First</strong>, consider what knowledge base they&#8217;re starting from. How much do they know about American culture? How much do they know about you? Aditya&#8217;s parents had never been to the US when he announced that he was dating me, so most of what they knew about American culture came from Hollywood and other media. I&#8217;ve written a bit about how Aditya and I did to address his parent&#8217;s concerns<a title="Meeting the Desi Parents" href="http://gorigirl.com/meeting-the-desi-parents"> here</a>, but obviously not every strategy is going to work for every family.</p>
<p><strong>Second</strong>, start addressing their concerns about you, one by one. Obviously, you can&#8217;t change the fact that divorce rates are high in the US, but you <em>can </em>show how you&#8217;re committed to R-, and to family generally.  Since their biggest concern seems to be that the relationship will eventually break up, leaving R- stranded, the best medicine is just time, as hard as that sounds. I also think a lot of concerns family can have stems from the &#8220;otherness&#8221; of intercultural relationships &#8211; you&#8217;re not what they&#8217;re used to, and they aren&#8217;t sure how to relate to you, or what to expect from you. What they&#8217;ve heard about Americans tells them to expect for you to not be serious about your relationship. Counter that! Steady communication from R-, and eventually from you, about the strength of your relationship and how you can &#8220;fit&#8221; into the family is very important. If you keep repeating the message, via phone calls, emails, &amp; letters, at least they won&#8217;t be able to ignore the issue &#8211; and eventually they might start believing what you say.</p>
<p>I think you two have started off very well with the &#8220;slow acclimation&#8221; by having R- tell his family straight-up while he was visiting India. I also think it&#8217;s great that you&#8217;re making an effort to learn about his culture via the Telugu lessons and the Indian cooking. I&#8217;d suggest continuing with that, and adding in other bits of Indian culture as time &amp; comfort level (on your part!) allow. I&#8217;m not at all suggesting you change who you are to try to become the perfect Indian daughter, but rather that you try to find subjects where you can meet R-&#8217;s family on a common ground. Since it seems that they&#8217;re quite uncomfortable with the entire situation, it means that you&#8217;ll have to make the effort.</p>
<p><strong>Finally</strong>, learning more about R-&#8217;s particular family and community will probably help you figure out other things that could help your efforts with his family, and prepare you for when you communicate with them, or eventually meet. (I don&#8217;t know much about Telugu families, so I can&#8217;t be much help in the specifics). While it seems like he has a great attitude about helping you out here, there may be a lot of things he wouldn&#8217;t even think to tell you about, as they&#8217;re so natural to him. One thing that really helped me out here was taking a Hinduism course at the same time as Aditya (he was just in it for the easy A). We&#8217;d talk about the course topics, and I&#8217;d ask about how things worked in his family, and I&#8217;d end up hearing five or ten stories from his childhood. I don&#8217;t think many people are in a position to take a course like that, but a great alternative is reading fiction &amp; nonfiction books about India and Indian culture together, and then discussing them in relation to his experiences.</p>
<p>So, <strong>my main three</strong>: address their concerns, keep the communication lines open, and work at understanding his culture (and therefore his family&#8217;s reactions).</p>
<p>I hope all of this has been of some help, Travelergal, and I&#8217;m wishing the best of luck for you and R- in your efforts to bring his family around! Does anyone else have any suggestions?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Slate's <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005161.html" title="Dear Prudence">Dear Prudence column</a> has dipped its toe into the intercultural relationship waters with a advice on how to deal with Indian parents refusing to meet their boy's girlfriend. The situation is one that a number of readers here have seen - or are currently in - so I thought I'd link to this timely advice. Personally, I think that Prudie's advice on what to do is pretty spot on: insist on having the parents meet the girl at the next chance. However, I don't think Prudie understands all of the intricacies involved in an intercultural relationship - especially one where the parent-child relationship of one partner's culture is so different from the other's.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slate&#8217;s <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005161.html" title="Dear Prudence">Dear Prudence column</a> has dipped its toe into the intercultural relationship waters with a advice on how to deal with Indian parents refusing to meet their boy&#8217;s girlfriend. The situation is one that a number of readers here have seen &#8211; or are currently in &#8211; so I thought I&#8217;d link to this timely advice. Personally, I think that Prudie&#8217;s advice on what to do is pretty spot on: insist on having the parents meet the girl at the next chance. However, I don&#8217;t think Prudie understands all of the intricacies involved in an intercultural relationship &#8211; especially one where the parent-child relationship of one partner&#8217;s culture is so different from the other&#8217;s.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005161.html" title="Septia Mutiny">Septia Mutiny</a> has a brief post on the same article &#8211; and while the post itself isn&#8217;t much to write home about, the comments section has a lot of interesting stories and discussions on it. Check it out when you have the time.</p>
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Many people subscribe to the idea that your personal life is nobody's business but your own - as long as you aren't maiming others, anyways. While I generally agree with the sentiment this idea expresses, I also think it's important to realize that, like it or not, your actions affect a wide swath of people. In fact, at the margin, <strong>your actions affect the entire world</strong>.

Let's all pause for a moment to ponder that grandiose thought while breaking out into <em>The Circle of Life</em>.

Everyone back? Good. I brought up this topic because being in an intercultural relationships has a tendency to disrupt the "social equilibrium," if you will, of the people around you. In almost every country and region an intercultural relationship is the exception, not the norm. So while being in <em>any</em> relationship might affect those close to you - my dad still hasn't gotten over the fact that I'm no longer his little girl - intercultural relationships are both a regular ol' relationship <em>and </em>something of a challenge to the status quo. As if romantic relationships weren't tough enough on their own!

In this post I'm focusing on how <em>intercultural </em>relationships, in particular, affect those around us. I'll start out by laying out a (non-comprehensive) list of the type of people who can be affected by your intercultural marriage or relationship, continue with how these effects ripple out through the social web of life, and then finish up with how much you should really care about it all. This post developed as I thought about how parents can react to their children's intercultural relationships - I'll be applying the principles and theory I develop here to that post, which will be the next "serious" one.]]></description>
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<p>Many people subscribe to the idea that your personal life is nobody&#8217;s business but your own &#8211; as long as you aren&#8217;t maiming others, anyways. While I generally agree with the sentiment this idea expresses, I also think it&#8217;s important to realize that, like it or not, your actions affect a wide swath of people. In fact, at the margin, <strong>your actions affect the entire world</strong>.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s all pause for a moment to ponder that grandiose thought while breaking out into <em>The Circle of Life</em>.</p>
<p>Everyone back? Good. I brought up this topic because being in an intercultural relationships has a tendency to disrupt the &#8220;social equilibrium,&#8221; if you will, of the people around you. In almost every country and region an intercultural relationship is the exception, not the norm. So while being in <em>any</em> relationship might affect those close to you &#8211; my dad still hasn&#8217;t gotten over the fact that I&#8217;m no longer his little girl &#8211; intercultural relationships are both a regular ol&#8217; relationship <em>and </em>something of a challenge to the status quo. As if romantic relationships weren&#8217;t tough enough on their own!</p>
<p>In this post I&#8217;m focusing on how <em>intercultural </em>relationships, in particular, affect those around us. I&#8217;ll start out by laying out a (non-comprehensive) list of the type of people who can be affected by your intercultural marriage or relationship, continue with how these effects ripple out through the social web of life, and then finish up with how much you should really care about it all. This post developed as I thought about how parents can react to their children&#8217;s intercultural relationships &#8211; I&#8217;ll be applying the principles and theory I develop here to that post, which will be the next &#8220;serious&#8221; one.</p>
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<h3>So just who <em>is</em> affected?</h3>
<p>I wrote above that everyone is affected, and I <em>do</em> believe that. I&#8217;m not trying to say that an intercultural or interracial marriage is a political event (<a title="Loving Day" href="http://www.lovingday.org/">now, at least</a>), or that couples in intercultural relationships are dating to change the world through their example &#8211; almost all intercultural couples are in it for love, not ideological reasons, according to at least <a title="Love's Revolution" href="http://gorigirl.com/icr-review-loves-revolution">one study</a>. The way people are affected, however, depends on their relationship to you. With that in mind, I&#8217;m going to break it down into different categories that helps me mentally organize these ideas &#8211; but remember that this is <em>not</em> meant to be comprehensive.</p>
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<li><strong>You</strong><br />
Hah &#8211; you thought I&#8217;d just be talking about other people, right? Nope &#8211; an intercultural relationship is going to change <em>you</em>, and those changes are going to affect everyone you know. These changes can be fairly superficial &#8211; new recipes in the kitchen, foreign language films on the netflix list &#8211; or they can be deep and life-changing &#8211; a different religion, different priorities, or a home in a new country. And this is in addition to the typical mental stretching that happens in any relationship.While you&#8217;re probably okay with the changes that are happening due to your intercultural relationship &#8211; otherwise, you&#8217;d change or end the relationship &#8211; others around you might not be. Or they might just be surprised by the parts of your personality &#8211; parts that have always been there &#8211; that become more prominent in the light of your new relationship.Personally, while I don&#8217;t feel like any deep part of me was changed through my relationship with Aditya, there were a lot of minor changes that did occur. And at least some members of my family were alarmed by this &#8211; early in our relationship, one person even came to me to tell me that she was worried Aditya was planning to take me off to India and make me, uh, an Indian housewife with no rights, or something. *shrug* I have no idea where that came from.</li>
<li><strong>Your Partner<br />
</strong>The guy or gal in your life is being stretched by your intercultural relationship, just like you are. And those changes can freak out his family, friends, and acquaintances too. Occasionally you might get blamed by your partner&#8217;s family or friends as the cause of changes they dislike or fear. It may be hard to hear, but in some ways, they <em>are</em> right to blame you &#8211; if she hadn&#8217;t met you, she probably wouldn&#8217;t have changed in just those ways, at least not at that time. But just because you&#8217;re the <em>cause </em>of those changes doesn&#8217;t mean that you&#8217;ve done something wrong, unless you&#8217;ve forced your partner to change in ways he didn&#8217;t want to. And at this point I put in the obligatory warning that you&#8217;ve heard from anyone and everyone regarding relationships: don&#8217;t get into one with the intention to change your partner. It just doesn&#8217;t turn out well.</li>
<li><strong>Close Family and Friends<br />
</strong>There are a few ways that those who are close to you can change because of <em>your</em> intercultural marriage or relationship. First, their beliefs about the &#8220;proper&#8221; way different races or cultures should interact might be challenged. Maybe they&#8217;ll become more accepting of intercultural interactions &#8211; but maybe they&#8217;ll become worse. A relative of mine, for instance, once told me point-blank that he thought that I shouldn&#8217;t ever date a black or African-American man, since that would just be wrong. I actually <em>did</em> date a black guy after this comment, but didn&#8217;t tell this relative, since it was a very casual, short-lived thing and I wasn&#8217;t interested in a fight with said relative. I do wonder what would have happened if I had told the relative, though &#8211; would his thoughts on the matter have changed?Second, those who are close to you might also change their ways because of their new exposure to your partner&#8217;s culture. My mom loves all the little details she has picked up about Indian culture through her son-in-law. She&#8217;s also in line (after me) to learn some Indian cooking from Maa.Third, family and friends are affected by the changes in you and your partner (depending on whose family and friends they are). If your partner changes substantially, for instance, it may be that his parents and siblings feel less connected to him.</li>
<li><strong>Extended Family and Acquaintances<br />
</strong>By &#8220;extended family&#8221; here, I mean family members who are not particularly close to you or your significant other &#8211; not the type of extended family where a third cousin is as close as a brother. These are people who are less affect by changes in you, and more affected by changes in your status as seen by others. Maybe your intercultural relationship convinces a younger cousin that is now &#8220;okay&#8221; to do that in your culture, so she starts dating the cute white boy she&#8217;s friends with. Or maybe simply knowing a person in an intercultural relationship makes an acquaintance think a bit deeper about race relationships. These are small changes, but in the aggregate they matter.</li>
<li><strong>The people of your subculture, or those of your partner&#8217;s subculture<br />
</strong>These are people who don&#8217;t even know you, but share your culture. How could they possibly be affected by your personal relationship? Well, one example that springs to my mind is the <a title="Languages Dying Out" href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4685-half-of-all-languages-face-extinction-this-century.html">dying out of languages</a> around the world. When a person chooses to date or marry outside of their culture, often (not always!) they or their children lose parts of their native culture. Language is one example of this. The Jewish community&#8217;s efforts to maintain their culture in the face of a significant amounts of intermarriage is another example.</li>
<li><strong>&#8220;Society&#8221;<br />
</strong>My general catch-all for people who don&#8217;t fit into those other categories. As I stated above, if you&#8217;re in an intercultural relationship in a place where it&#8217;s uncommon, whether you choose to or not, you&#8217;re making a general statement to society that intercultural relationships are okay. And bit by bit, this can change people&#8217;s opinions on the matter.</li>
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<h3>The Ripple Effect</h3>
<p>But the changes don&#8217;t stop just here. As each person changes, it affects <em>their </em>relationship with everyone else. The social equilibrium has become unbalanced, and everything will shift about a bit to regain a new equilibrium. This is what I&#8217;m calling the Ripple Effect &#8211; the effects of your intercultural relationship will ripple through the social web of everyone around you. As your partner changes, for instance, his relationship with his parents will change &#8211; and this is something that they might worry about. And if your partner&#8217;s parents change, their relationship to their other children might change. Aditya&#8217;s parents, for instance, were softened up for my appearance by his brother&#8217;s intercultural marriage to a Punjabi Indian.</p>
<p>Other ripples that you might worry about are pressures from &#8220;society&#8221; or acquaintances  or even extended family on your close family or friends for &#8220;allowing&#8221; your intercultural relationship. Your family is now the-family-with-the-intercultural-relationship, and others may see that as good or as bad.</p>
<h3>A person affected ≠ a person who cares much</h3>
<p>The vast majority of &#8220;society&#8221; that you pass on the street probably doesn&#8217;t care that they&#8217;re affected a teeny tiny bit by your intercultural marriage. Some close friends of mine couldn&#8217;t give a hoot that I&#8217;m in an intercultural relationship, even though it does affect them through me (mostly because of my <a title="Coffy Bite" href="http://gorigirl.com/indias-delicious-products-or-why-cant-we-get-that-here">Coffy Bite</a> supply). I&#8217;m not sure if my brother has ever even realized that Aditya is Indian &#8211; he&#8217;s completely oblivious to (major) things like that. Just because someone is affected by an intercultural relationship doesn&#8217;t mean that they&#8217;ll care much &#8211; and even if they care, they may not say anything. It&#8217;ll depend on their personalities, their feelings and background in intercultural undertakings, and any number of other idiosyncratic things.</p>
<h3>A person who cares ≠ you caring about their cares</h3>
<p>Even if a person cares <em>a lot </em>about the fact that they&#8217;re affected by your intercultural relationship doesn&#8217;t mean that you need to care about their opinion. I&#8217;ve had a couple of random people tell me that I shouldn&#8217;t date outside my race, and that they were personally offended that I was doing so, and making it seem more acceptable to society at large. I don&#8217;t particularly care that they&#8217;re upset about this. I&#8217;m A-okay, in fact. I bet most of you are too!</p>
<p>If someone close to me was upset about the effects of my intercultural relationship on them, it&#8217;d be a little different, of course. I&#8217;m lucky enough that I&#8217;ve never been put into that situation &#8211; no one who&#8217;s opinion mattered to me has ever suggested that my intercultural relationship was affecting them negatively. Of course, these sort of situations <em>do </em>occur &#8211; we&#8217;ve all heard the stories of Indian parents, for instance, losing social status within their communities because of intercultural relationships.  I imagine there might even be a few people who sniff at my inlaws for allowing their son to marry a Gori &#8211; luckily Maa and Baba aren&#8217;t the type to care about that, either.</p>
<p>Before I sign off on this huge post, I&#8217;d like to make one thing <em>very</em> clear: I&#8217;m not condoning racism in any way, shape or form. Racism is an evil thing, and people who have issues with your intercultural relationship because of their racist views should be told where to shove it, in my opinion. But there&#8217;s a difference between someone disliking an intercultural relationship because of the (true) negatives affects it might have on him or other entities he cares about, and disliking it because you&#8217;re a racist or just don&#8217;t like people of different cultures mixing. My point here was to make it clear that, because of the wide-ranging, rippled effects that your relationship might have others, there <em>are </em>legitimate concerns they might raise about your relationship. I personally believe that the benefits from an intercultural relationship &#8211; or heck, any relationship where two people love each &#8211; almost always outweighs any of the possible negatives, but others&#8217; opinions might differ.</p>
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Few things fill me with as much dread as meeting my partner's parents.

First off, I'm socially awkward by nature - at least when meeting new people. I never know how to make small talk, or when good eye contact crosses the line into weird staring, or if my posture and facial expressions are saying "possibly mentally deranged" rather than "cool and confident ".

Then there’s the fact that I’m meeting <em>the parents</em>. While I’m not exactly a “people pleaser”, I do think it’s important to have a good rapport with the parents of your significant other, at least if he or she is close to them (and Aditya is). If the relationship continues then they're going to be a part of your life forever, and well, family matters, you know? And first impressions matter too.

Finally, with Aditya’s parents I had the whole “different culture” thing to worry about too. All of the social rules and interpersonal cues – which I only have a passing knowledge of, anyways – go swishing out the window when you’re faced with a new culture. Not only could I completely mess up, I could completely mess up <em>and not even know what I did wrong</em>.

Despite this, my initial meetings with Aditya’s parents – first Maa, then Baba – ended up going quite well. While this may be more due to their innate awesomeness than any actions of mine, I hope my story can help out some of you who are struggling with the same sort of worries I had had. Next post I’ll be focusing on some of the more “theoretical” aspects of meeting the parents, which will greatly extend some of the points I bring up here, so be sure to tune in for that too.]]></description>
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Few things fill me with as much dread as meeting my partner&#8217;s parents.</p>
<p>First off, I&#8217;m socially awkward by nature &#8211; at least when meeting new people. I never know how to make small talk, or when good eye contact crosses the line into weird staring, or if my posture and facial expressions are saying &#8220;possibly mentally deranged&#8221; rather than &#8220;cool and confident &#8220;.</p>
<p>Then there’s the fact that I’m meeting <em>the parents</em>. While I’m not exactly a “people pleaser”, I do think it’s important to have a good rapport with the parents of your significant other, at least if he or she is close to them (and Aditya is). If the relationship continues then they&#8217;re going to be a part of your life forever, and well, family matters, you know? And first impressions matter too.</p>
<p>Finally, with Aditya’s parents I had the whole “different culture” thing to worry about too. All of the social rules and interpersonal cues – which I only have a passing knowledge of, anyways – go swishing out the window when you’re faced with a new culture. Not only could I completely mess up, I could completely mess up <em>and not even know what I did wrong</em>.</p>
<p>Despite this, my initial meetings with Aditya’s parents – first Maa, then Baba – ended up going quite well. While this may be more due to their innate awesomeness than any actions of mine, I hope my story can help out some of you who are struggling with the same sort of worries I had had. Next post I’ll be focusing on some of the more “theoretical” aspects of meeting the parents, which will greatly extend some of the points I bring up here, so be sure to tune in for that too.<span id="more-67"></span></p>
<h3>Laying the groundwork</h3>
<p>The best thing Aditya and I did in meeting his parents were the extensive preparations – which I’ll term research and parent prep – we did <em>prior</em> to the actual meetings. These preparations allowed both his parents and me to be much more relaxed and ready for each other when we got around to the face-to-face.</p>
<h4><strong>Research</strong></h4>
<p>As an academic-in-training, I’ve come to value good research. Well, actually, I’ve <em>always</em> valued research – I believe the technical term I heard as a child was “bookworm.” (This is where the lack of social skills stems from.) After Aditya and I decided we were “serious”, I started in on studying up on both India and intercultural relationships. Initially this was meant to help my relationship with Aditya, but it sure paid off when it came to meeting his parents. I availed myself of the following resources:</p>
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<li><strong>A Hinduism Course</strong><br />
I audited an Introduction to Hinduism course that was offered at my university. Aditya was actually taking the course at the same as part of his Religious Studies major, which meant that I could pester him after every class to find out which portions of the lecture applied to his family. These questions tended to lead to general discussions about Indian culture beyond Hinduism: a question about caste, for instance, would lead to a discussion about class distinctions in modern India, and what his experiences had been as a child. The American professor of the course, with his “outsider” view of India was also a great resource, particularly since he had spent a number of years living in the state of West Bengal, where Aditya’s family was from.</li>
<li><strong>Books on intercultural relationships &amp; India</strong><br />
I cleaned out both the university and local library looking for any book, fiction or nonfiction, that would give me some information about Indian culture or intercultural relationships. Some of these books can be found on the Intercultural Relationships Resource page, and I’ll be adding more of them in the future. The India books were useful in that they added to my background knowledge of India. Some of the intercultural books had sections devoted to relations with the extended family, or even personal anecdotes from Indian-white couples.</li>
<li><strong>The Internet</strong><br />
I cannot tell you the number of internet searches I performed, both for my relationship with Aditya and specifically in anticipation of meeting with Aditya’s parents. I tried <em>every</em> possible permutation of “India”, “parents”, “culture”, “interracial”, “intercultural”, “relationship”, and so forth, but found very little that addressed the type of concerns I had. That’s one of the reasons why Gori Girl was created. Still, I did find some personal stories and resources, most of which seemed decidedly negative. That’s another reason why Gori Girl was created &#8211; those of us who have good stories have less reason to vent or seek advice on the net, but our stories are still needed.</li>
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<p><strong>Parent Prep</strong><br />
While I was doing my lit review on All Things Indian and Intercultural, Aditya was working at things from his end as well. His parents live in India, so he knew we wouldn’t be able to meet face-to-face for quite awhile, but we both agreed that it’d be best to inform them about the relationship earlier rather than later.<br />
The <strong>timeline</strong> went something like this:</p>
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<li>After we were “serious”, rather than just casually dating, Aditya let his parents know that there was a new girl in his life who happened to be white. This was partly because he didn’t want to keep secrets from his family (they’re all quite close), and partly because he couldn’t have even if he had wanted to.<span style="color: #ff0000;">***</span></li>
<li>Over the following months Aditya slowly informed his parents about me. He started with the facts that his parents would want to know about a prospective bride – not because we were engaged at the time, but because in Indian culture the idea of just “dating” is rather new. I was a math and economics major (good job prospects!), was planning on getting a Ph.D (values education!), loved Indian food, was taking a Hinduism class, and had grown up in a very diverse area (open to Indian culture!). A number of his comments were meant to address misconceptions that his parents might have had about Americans and American culture, since they had never been to the US. The main purpose of these conversations was to give his parents ways to understand and relate easily to me.</li>
<li>Later, I was introduced to Aditya&#8217;s older brother, Dada, and his wife, Bhabi. They&#8217;re significantly closer in age to Aditya and I than his parents, and had been living in the US (conveniently only a few miles away from my dad&#8217;s house) for some months, so it was a pretty easy meeting &#8211; or, at least, less stressful than meeting the parents. While I was nervous, I at least had an idea of what to talk about with them, and could even offer a bit of advice on things to do and see in the area. On our first meeting I think we went out to a South Indian restaurant where I could display my naan-tearing skills and ability to handle spicy food. After the meeting Dada and Bhabi were, of course, interrogated by Aditya&#8217;s mother (or so I&#8217;m told). This, again, allowed Aditya&#8217;s parents to gain more information about me before our big meeting, and therefore become more used to the idea of a white girl dating their boy. I&#8217;m all about the slow acclimation.</li>
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<h3>Meeting Maa</h3>
<p>After all that work, it&#8217;s rather ironic that I first met one of Aditya&#8217;s parents while our relationship was &#8220;on a break&#8221;.  Typical relationship troubles &#8211; fighting and the like &#8211; had led us to call it quits, at least for a little while. But we were still maintaining a tenuous friendship, and it happened that I was in California visiting my dad at the same time his mother was visiting Dada. Aditya was in California too, and he had to drop something off or pick something up from me &#8211; I forget which now. Anyways, he had his brother drive by my dad&#8217;s house for the pick up/drop off, and Maa came along to briefly meet this girl that her son had been dating.</p>
<p>Let me tell you, the <em>best </em>way to meet a significant other&#8217;s parents is when you&#8217;re no longer dating. There&#8217;s absolutely no stress, since there&#8217;s no real reason to worry if they&#8217;ll like you or not. In my case I remember coming out to meet them at the car, dressed in old jeans and a wrinkled over-sized white shirt that I&#8217;d stolen from a male Bangladeshi friend. I think my hair was still wet from a shower. I exchanged a few words with Aditya&#8217;s mother through the car window &#8211; said hello, inquired after her health and what she thought of the the US, and then they drove away (after picking up/dropping off whatever the heck it was). And that was it. Simple, no?</p>
<p>Afterwards I learned, to my immense delight, that Maa had immediately liked me (why, I have no idea &#8211; perhaps my excellent taste in stolen shirts). In fact, she started telling Aditya that he shouldn&#8217;t have let me get away, and that he should try to get back into a relationship with me, asap. And eventually we did, of course, although I can&#8217;t tell you if it was because of Maa&#8217;s prompting or not. Still, major ego boost when I finally heard about all this.</p>
<h3>Meeting Baba</h3>
<p>A couple of months after my first meeting with Maa, Aditya and I were back in a relationship, and back in California. I ended up visiting with Maa several times before I met Baba. They were fairly short meetings, always with Aditya present.  Ginger tea was typically served (delicious), along with biscuits or samosas (my favorite Indian snack, but Maa didn&#8217;t know that at the time), and we&#8217;d hesitantly talk about the weather, California, and my studies, or play a board game. We  both were, and to some extent are, rather shy in our conversations. Basically, we&#8217;re <em>both</em> afraid of saying the wrong thing and offending the other. Aditya is greatly amused by this.</p>
<p>My first meeting with Baba was very different from these visits with Maa. This is partly because of Baba&#8217;s personality &#8211; think friendly, easy-going ex-Army officer &#8211; and partly because I cleverly brought my family&#8217;s huge golden lab, Bear, with me to the meeting. See, Aditya&#8217;s family absolutely adore dogs, and Bear loves people and walks. Bringing the dog was a strategic move on my part: the attention would be on Bear, not me. It worked wonderfully. Baba even brought out the camera to take a picture of Bear wandering around Dada&#8217;s house. We talked about dogs for awhile, got some water for the pooch, and then I continued on my walk with Bear. Again, the actual event was far less stressful than what I had imagined. And I again attribute this mainly to my inlaws&#8217; coolness: their main concern was that I made their son happy.</p>
<h3>Why I think it went well</h3>
<p>I&#8217;ve already addressed how important I think the groundwork Aditya and I did was, but I&#8217;d like to emphasize it again. By the time I met my future inlaws I had a large base of knowledge about Indian culture to draw on, which helped me to pick up on subtle clues and social cues that I might have missed otherwise. I was <em>comfortable </em>entering &#8211; or at least stopping by &#8211; in the Indian world Maa and Baba live in. That sort of ease just can&#8217;t be faked, and, trust me, people <em>do </em>pick up on it.</p>
<p>At the first and subsequent meetings, I made efforts to discuss and do the things I knew I had in common with Maa &amp; Baba. If your significant other is close to his or her family, it&#8217;s likely that they posses some of the same traits and interests that originally attracted you to your partner. For instance, Aditya and I both hail from families that play a lot of board and card games &#8211; we played them while casually dating, and I played them with his parents during our first few meetings. I know I raised myself a few notches in Baba&#8217;s estimation when I picked up their family card game, Twenty nine, with relative ease. Bear&#8217;s charming doggy nature (and the good training he displayed) also scored me a couple of points. These are little things, but they help dispel the &#8220;otherness&#8221; that parents might be uncomfortable with when faced with an intercultural relationship.</p>
<p>I plan to discuss in more general terms the reasonable and rational concerns parents may have about intercultural relationships soonish. I&#8217;ve glossed over some of the concerns Maa and Baba had, due to length, so be sure to check out that post if you&#8217;re interested in hearing more on this topic.</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">***</span>Long story here. Short version: I had recently been hospitalized, and then was in a wheelchair for a good month. Aditya was over at my place all the time helping me out, pushing me to classes, and generally being an awesome boyfriend. This meant he would have missed a lot of his parents’ phone calls, and his frat brothers couldn’t cover for him forever. Rather than worry his parents, it was easier to just tell them to call my room’s phone, and explain the circumstances. They were glad he was looking after me like a proper gentleman. By the end of the whole ordeal we were a lot closer, and I could do awesome wheelies.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the <em>sixth year running</em>, Aditya and I have moved our junk to a new home. Yes, you read that right: we've moved (together or both individually) <em>every year</em> for the past six years. It's not that I like moving; it's just a combination of being a student, having an urge to see the world, and a peculiar, magical moving amnesia that makes me forget every year how traumatic moving really is. I'll spare you the gory details, but beyond the typical panicked late night packing, <em>this</em> move has included our utilities being shut off at the new house, at least three separate lockouts, sleeping on hardwood floors, and a hail storm.

In an attempt to stay sane (and nourished) through this process,  Aditya, an Indian friend, and I went to the mall near the new place this weekend for food and a bit of light goofing off between hauling boxes.  And guess what?  We've accidentally moved to the Desi suburbs. About every fourth group we saw wandering the mall was sub-Continental, and I'd guess that at least a third of the mall population was Asian. It's like we're back in California!

Tomorrow I'll get a post up about the first few times I met Aditya's parents, and I'll be blogging regularly now that the worst of the moving trauma is over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the <em>sixth year running</em>, Aditya and I have moved our junk to a new home. Yes, you read that right: we&#8217;ve moved (together or both individually) <em>every year</em> for the past six years. It&#8217;s not that I like moving; it&#8217;s just a combination of being a student, having an urge to see the world, and a peculiar, magical moving amnesia that makes me forget every year how traumatic moving really is. I&#8217;ll spare you the gory details, but beyond the typical panicked late night packing, <em>this</em> move has included our utilities being shut off at the new house, at least three separate lockouts, sleeping on hardwood floors, and a hail storm.</p>
<p>In an attempt to stay sane (and nourished) through this process,  Aditya, an Indian friend, and I went to the mall near the new place this weekend for food and a bit of light goofing off between hauling boxes.  And guess what?  We&#8217;ve accidentally moved to the Desi suburbs. About every fourth group we saw wandering the mall was sub-Continental, and I&#8217;d guess that at least a third of the mall population was Asian. It&#8217;s like we&#8217;re back in California!</p>
<p>Tomorrow I&#8217;ll get a post up about the first few times I met Aditya&#8217;s parents, and I&#8217;ll be blogging regularly now that the worst of the moving trauma is over.</p>
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