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		<title>By: Raj</title>
		<link>http://gorigirl.com/interracial-or-intercultural-relationship#comment-21899</link>
		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 19:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A dark skin South Indian male married to a light skinned North Indian female from Kashmir will have the same problems in rural Virginia that a white woman married to a dark skinned south Indian male would have. Many dark skinned South Indians are mistaken for people of African ancestry!</description>
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		<title>By: Sheetal</title>
		<link>http://gorigirl.com/interracial-or-intercultural-relationship#comment-3710</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheetal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 06:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your questions about &quot;do you see your interracial relationship as an intercultural one or interethnic one&quot; have to do with your heritage not being South Asian so one can see why it is difficult for you to understand your heritage, your culture, your race, your ethnicity are not from India atleast not for your specific  preceding centuries in your specific lineage. In Ireland, your culture is eating bland meat stews daily several times a day and sometimes with horse meat and going to pubs regularly (specifically forbidden in Hindu South Asian Vedas and passed since five millenia) and going to pubs. Sorry gorigirl but that is not the culture in India. Do you think your Irish heritage and culture and religion and ethnicity are the same as South Asians? When did Ireland follow Hinduism and all relevant aspects from the foods to the marriages to the jewlery, ancient temples, dress, language in 90% of population? 
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION: SINCE none of these things are relevant to IRELAND NOR CREATED IN IRELAND, it is AN INTER CULTURAL RACIAL ETHNIC RELIGIOUS RELATIONSHIP. The HINDU VEDIC WEDDING DRESS did not originate in Ireland. Christianity alone is new to 3000 years after Hinduism and 700 years after Buddhism. I hope I answered your question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your questions about &#8220;do you see your interracial relationship as an intercultural one or interethnic one&#8221; have to do with your heritage not being South Asian so one can see why it is difficult for you to understand your heritage, your culture, your race, your ethnicity are not from India atleast not for your specific  preceding centuries in your specific lineage. In Ireland, your culture is eating bland meat stews daily several times a day and sometimes with horse meat and going to pubs regularly (specifically forbidden in Hindu South Asian Vedas and passed since five millenia) and going to pubs. Sorry gorigirl but that is not the culture in India. Do you think your Irish heritage and culture and religion and ethnicity are the same as South Asians? When did Ireland follow Hinduism and all relevant aspects from the foods to the marriages to the jewlery, ancient temples, dress, language in 90% of population?<br />
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION: SINCE none of these things are relevant to IRELAND NOR CREATED IN IRELAND, it is AN INTER CULTURAL RACIAL ETHNIC RELIGIOUS RELATIONSHIP. The HINDU VEDIC WEDDING DRESS did not originate in Ireland. Christianity alone is new to 3000 years after Hinduism and 700 years after Buddhism. I hope I answered your question.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheetal</title>
		<link>http://gorigirl.com/interracial-or-intercultural-relationship#comment-3709</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheetal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 06:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Origin of North Europeans Video helps to explain where your race comes from Since you claim or attempt to be &quot;educated&quot; let us see if a truly educated person is capable of the truth and knowledge :)</description>
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		<title>By: Sheetal</title>
		<link>http://gorigirl.com/interracial-or-intercultural-relationship#comment-3708</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheetal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 06:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right gorigirl race does not exist most of Europe is white where they hunt down gypsies from India who are Rajasthani and fled Moghul invasions. you are not Indian and 99% of India is it&#039;s own race genetically speaking: South Asians are not European racially speaking. For example most whites do not have melanin in skin; South Asians do. So genetically there are differences, as well South Asians have different DNA susceptibilities as do Europeans (central nervous system disease from not having as much melanin in skin). White skin is different from Asian skin with regard to aging much faster as well and being ten times more susceptible to skin cancer. Your genetic race, your heritage, your religion is not South Asian based, try as you may to take credit for India&#039;s indigenous race or culture. Even English or Celtic language has only existed since last couple thousand years while Sanskrit preddated it by several millenia. If you need proof, archaelogical does exist if you watch Dwaraka: A lost city of Krishna. You are not Indian, and your South Asian husband is not white. You have alot of time on your hands, and little knowledge. The knowledge you do have is biased towards your ridiculous opinons and none on genetics nor facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right gorigirl race does not exist most of Europe is white where they hunt down gypsies from India who are Rajasthani and fled Moghul invasions. you are not Indian and 99% of India is it&#8217;s own race genetically speaking: South Asians are not European racially speaking. For example most whites do not have melanin in skin; South Asians do. So genetically there are differences, as well South Asians have different DNA susceptibilities as do Europeans (central nervous system disease from not having as much melanin in skin). White skin is different from Asian skin with regard to aging much faster as well and being ten times more susceptible to skin cancer. Your genetic race, your heritage, your religion is not South Asian based, try as you may to take credit for India&#8217;s indigenous race or culture. Even English or Celtic language has only existed since last couple thousand years while Sanskrit preddated it by several millenia. If you need proof, archaelogical does exist if you watch Dwaraka: A lost city of Krishna. You are not Indian, and your South Asian husband is not white. You have alot of time on your hands, and little knowledge. The knowledge you do have is biased towards your ridiculous opinons and none on genetics nor facts.</p>
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		<title>By: luckyfatima</title>
		<link>http://gorigirl.com/interracial-or-intercultural-relationship#comment-2973</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anonymous: Well, I think Eastern European origin Jews in the USA are on somewhere near the ending boundaries of whiteness kind of like Greeks, Italians, Albanians, etc. and other whites with &quot;darker&quot; looks compared to other Euro-Americans, and who have distinct ethnic subcultures. I know that not all Ashkenazi Jews have &quot;dark looks&quot;, but I am personally rather phenotypically &#039;Jewish looking&#039; so I can generalize and expect u know what I mean :-) . Probably several decades ago Ashkenazi Jews wouldn&#039;t have been considered white by any white people. I single out European origin Jews because there are Jews from other places who would not be considered white under any circumstances--- in common American parlance saying something is &quot;Jewish&quot; is usually defining it by Ashkenazi Jewish culture in a way that disincludes non-white Jews who are just as authentically Jewish. Barring some very observant Ashkenazi Jews who live in compartmentalized communities and dress in special religiously defined clothes, European origin American Jewry is inside whiteness today and does benefit from white privilege, as well, although Jews are still the target of prejudice. So Jews have a unique &quot;ethnic&quot; position in the USA. I think there would be a fringe element of white supremacists who would never consider Euro origin Jews as white, but by and large most people would. So I consider myself bicultural and not biracial for that reason. I also grew up around a lot of Southern Baptists so I know what you mean, too. I know that they would consider me &quot;Other&quot; but certainly more white than a person of color.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anonymous: Well, I think Eastern European origin Jews in the USA are on somewhere near the ending boundaries of whiteness kind of like Greeks, Italians, Albanians, etc. and other whites with &#8220;darker&#8221; looks compared to other Euro-Americans, and who have distinct ethnic subcultures. I know that not all Ashkenazi Jews have &#8220;dark looks&#8221;, but I am personally rather phenotypically &#8216;Jewish looking&#8217; so I can generalize and expect u know what I mean <img src='http://gorigirl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  . Probably several decades ago Ashkenazi Jews wouldn&#8217;t have been considered white by any white people. I single out European origin Jews because there are Jews from other places who would not be considered white under any circumstances&#8212; in common American parlance saying something is &#8220;Jewish&#8221; is usually defining it by Ashkenazi Jewish culture in a way that disincludes non-white Jews who are just as authentically Jewish. Barring some very observant Ashkenazi Jews who live in compartmentalized communities and dress in special religiously defined clothes, European origin American Jewry is inside whiteness today and does benefit from white privilege, as well, although Jews are still the target of prejudice. So Jews have a unique &#8220;ethnic&#8221; position in the USA. I think there would be a fringe element of white supremacists who would never consider Euro origin Jews as white, but by and large most people would. So I consider myself bicultural and not biracial for that reason. I also grew up around a lot of Southern Baptists so I know what you mean, too. I know that they would consider me &#8220;Other&#8221; but certainly more white than a person of color.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://gorigirl.com/interracial-or-intercultural-relationship#comment-2969</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate to break it to you, LuckyFatima, but Jewish does not qualify as white, by most American &quot;white&quot; definitions.  (Don&#039;t believe me, ask 10 random Southern white people, preferably Baptist.)  So, you&#039;re biracial too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to break it to you, LuckyFatima, but Jewish does not qualify as white, by most American &#8220;white&#8221; definitions.  (Don&#8217;t believe me, ask 10 random Southern white people, preferably Baptist.)  So, you&#8217;re biracial too!</p>
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		<title>By: HMDean</title>
		<link>http://gorigirl.com/interracial-or-intercultural-relationship#comment-2735</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may sound odd, but after seven years, I don&#039;t think about this issue at all. My husband is just my husband, and our differences (I am white, he is Indian) only enter my consciousness when other people react to them, i.e., when a cashier ask us if we&#039;re together after we&#039;ve been standing half an inch apart and holding hands. 

I suppose if I had to choose, I&#039;d go with intercultural, because that&#039;s what defines my life with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may sound odd, but after seven years, I don&#8217;t think about this issue at all. My husband is just my husband, and our differences (I am white, he is Indian) only enter my consciousness when other people react to them, i.e., when a cashier ask us if we&#8217;re together after we&#8217;ve been standing half an inch apart and holding hands. </p>
<p>I suppose if I had to choose, I&#8217;d go with intercultural, because that&#8217;s what defines my life with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Gori Girl</title>
		<link>http://gorigirl.com/interracial-or-intercultural-relationship#comment-2610</link>
		<dc:creator>Gori Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that race is not simply a concept one can toss by the way-side - it plays into too many social and cultural expectations and beliefs (and this, of course, varies depending on what country, culture, and subculture you&#039;re living in). I always snort to myself when I hear people say that they &quot;Don&#039;t see race&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that race is not simply a concept one can toss by the way-side &#8211; it plays into too many social and cultural expectations and beliefs (and this, of course, varies depending on what country, culture, and subculture you&#8217;re living in). I always snort to myself when I hear people say that they &#8220;Don&#8217;t see race&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gori Girl</title>
		<link>http://gorigirl.com/interracial-or-intercultural-relationship#comment-2609</link>
		<dc:creator>Gori Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh - I didn&#039;t mean to imply that you &lt;em&gt;must&lt;/em&gt; be in &lt;em&gt;either&lt;/em&gt; an intercultural relationship &lt;em&gt;or&lt;/em&gt; and interracial one! I think that both terms are useful, for different situations. If you think that your outwardly appearance is the biggest difference (either to yourself or the general public) then &quot;interracial&quot; might be the better terminology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh &#8211; I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that you <em>must</em> be in <em>either</em> an intercultural relationship <em>or</em> and interracial one! I think that both terms are useful, for different situations. If you think that your outwardly appearance is the biggest difference (either to yourself or the general public) then &#8220;interracial&#8221; might be the better terminology.</p>
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		<title>By: Gori Girl</title>
		<link>http://gorigirl.com/interracial-or-intercultural-relationship#comment-2608</link>
		<dc:creator>Gori Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks - I&#039;m glad you like it!</description>
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		<title>By: luckyfatima</title>
		<link>http://gorigirl.com/interracial-or-intercultural-relationship#comment-2491</link>
		<dc:creator>luckyfatima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Race as a scientific concept does exist...if you think in terms of social science. The biological differences are nil, but the social impact of race basically affects everything in a person&#039;s life experience. As does class, gender, ability, sexual orientation, religion, passport, and a number of other factors, in terms of privilege vs. disadvantage. So I definately don&#039;t subscribe to the &quot;race doesn&#039;t exist&quot; catch phrase simply because it negates the experience of people who regularly experience being &#039;racialized&#039; in their daily lives.

At the same time, I understand that outside of an American/Western context and in Pakistan, my husband has no &#039;race&#039; because Pakistani is a nationali identity, not a race (though in America my kids are called &quot;half-Pakistani and half-white&quot;), and he is of Afghan as well as indigenous Indian ethnic background...and his classification as &quot;Khan&quot; and being of an Indian origin Urdu speaking family from a particular place functions similarly to a racial category in terms of identity and privilege. There are of course ethnic groups in Pakistan who are racialized by their background, like Pakhtoons, for example. And, in Pakistan, I am a clearly defined member of the white race.  

I do think of my husband and I as in both an interracial and intercultural marriage because of this. My two children are &quot;biracial&quot; in common American parlance, but actually multiracial in terms of actual origin.

Incidentally, my mother is of white Catholic background and my father is of Jewish background. Although they are both white and American, their cultural and religious backgrounds are distinct and intersections of difference have effects on their marriage and relationship, so I definately see them as bicultural and interreligious, but not interracial. And as a product of those two cultures in my home, I see a lot of parallels between biracial people&#039;s narratives that I read, and my own life experience.

Being a member of any particular socially defined race brings too much to the table in terms of everything we are, our baggage, our privilege, very often our world view, and so forth. So I cannot discount it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Race as a scientific concept does exist&#8230;if you think in terms of social science. The biological differences are nil, but the social impact of race basically affects everything in a person&#8217;s life experience. As does class, gender, ability, sexual orientation, religion, passport, and a number of other factors, in terms of privilege vs. disadvantage. So I definately don&#8217;t subscribe to the &#8220;race doesn&#8217;t exist&#8221; catch phrase simply because it negates the experience of people who regularly experience being &#8216;racialized&#8217; in their daily lives.</p>
<p>At the same time, I understand that outside of an American/Western context and in Pakistan, my husband has no &#8216;race&#8217; because Pakistani is a nationali identity, not a race (though in America my kids are called &#8220;half-Pakistani and half-white&#8221;), and he is of Afghan as well as indigenous Indian ethnic background&#8230;and his classification as &#8220;Khan&#8221; and being of an Indian origin Urdu speaking family from a particular place functions similarly to a racial category in terms of identity and privilege. There are of course ethnic groups in Pakistan who are racialized by their background, like Pakhtoons, for example. And, in Pakistan, I am a clearly defined member of the white race.  </p>
<p>I do think of my husband and I as in both an interracial and intercultural marriage because of this. My two children are &#8220;biracial&#8221; in common American parlance, but actually multiracial in terms of actual origin.</p>
<p>Incidentally, my mother is of white Catholic background and my father is of Jewish background. Although they are both white and American, their cultural and religious backgrounds are distinct and intersections of difference have effects on their marriage and relationship, so I definately see them as bicultural and interreligious, but not interracial. And as a product of those two cultures in my home, I see a lot of parallels between biracial people&#8217;s narratives that I read, and my own life experience.</p>
<p>Being a member of any particular socially defined race brings too much to the table in terms of everything we are, our baggage, our privilege, very often our world view, and so forth. So I cannot discount it.</p>
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		<title>By: mylifeinbrown</title>
		<link>http://gorigirl.com/interracial-or-intercultural-relationship#comment-2421</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 03:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re right, that I&#039;m probably in an intercultural marriage rather than an interracial one, but it doesn&#039;t feel that way. I&#039;ve always considered myself as racially different more than culturally different than my husband. We both were born and grew up in the US, we both went to the same college and similar public high schools. Maybe if I grew up in India I&#039;d feel differently, but right now I think the biggest difference is how I see myself as (outwardly) different than him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right, that I&#8217;m probably in an intercultural marriage rather than an interracial one, but it doesn&#8217;t feel that way. I&#8217;ve always considered myself as racially different more than culturally different than my husband. We both were born and grew up in the US, we both went to the same college and similar public high schools. Maybe if I grew up in India I&#8217;d feel differently, but right now I think the biggest difference is how I see myself as (outwardly) different than him.</p>
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		<title>By: dc transplant</title>
		<link>http://gorigirl.com/interracial-or-intercultural-relationship#comment-2400</link>
		<dc:creator>dc transplant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.: Great blog, BTW!  I check it out intermittently, and it&#039;s always good for a smile!  Believe me, you&#039;re not the only ones going through all of this stuff...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.: Great blog, BTW!  I check it out intermittently, and it&#8217;s always good for a smile!  Believe me, you&#8217;re not the only ones going through all of this stuff&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dc transplant</title>
		<link>http://gorigirl.com/interracial-or-intercultural-relationship#comment-2399</link>
		<dc:creator>dc transplant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree, the whole notion of &quot;race&quot; is stupid, was just making the point using the U.S. Census Bureau&#039;s archaic classifications.  I&#039;m Indian (Bengali, but born here), and my wife is of Swedish/English/German descent, and I&#039;m sure people look at us the same way.  (Don&#039;t really care, because our kids are beautiful!)  I guess if you want to get deep into it, look up the U.S. Supreme Court opinion (called something like U.S. v. Bhagat Singh) that goes into the whole Aryan/Dravidian thing, with racial &#039;purity&#039; maintained by the caste system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree, the whole notion of &#8220;race&#8221; is stupid, was just making the point using the U.S. Census Bureau&#8217;s archaic classifications.  I&#8217;m Indian (Bengali, but born here), and my wife is of Swedish/English/German descent, and I&#8217;m sure people look at us the same way.  (Don&#8217;t really care, because our kids are beautiful!)  I guess if you want to get deep into it, look up the U.S. Supreme Court opinion (called something like U.S. v. Bhagat Singh) that goes into the whole Aryan/Dravidian thing, with racial &#8216;purity&#8217; maintained by the caste system.</p>
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		<title>By: Gori Girl</title>
		<link>http://gorigirl.com/interracial-or-intercultural-relationship#comment-2389</link>
		<dc:creator>Gori Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends on how you define race, though. Since &quot;race&quot; in common parlance is a social construct without any real science behind it, what counts as &quot;interracial&quot; depends on how society defines it. Go a hundred years or so back in the US, and there&#039;s a sharp distinction between the majority group of WASPs and the more recent immigrants from Southern and Eastern Europe. Go forward 20 or 30 years, and I bet many of the children or grandchildren of immigrants from Central and South America will be considered as &quot;white&quot; as Italians and Bulgarians are today.

From my experiences, most of America would look at the differences in skin tone between my husband and I and declare us an interracial couple, which means that we have to deal with everything (good and bad) that goes along with being identified as interracial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends on how you define race, though. Since &#8220;race&#8221; in common parlance is a social construct without any real science behind it, what counts as &#8220;interracial&#8221; depends on how society defines it. Go a hundred years or so back in the US, and there&#8217;s a sharp distinction between the majority group of WASPs and the more recent immigrants from Southern and Eastern Europe. Go forward 20 or 30 years, and I bet many of the children or grandchildren of immigrants from Central and South America will be considered as &#8220;white&#8221; as Italians and Bulgarians are today.</p>
<p>From my experiences, most of America would look at the differences in skin tone between my husband and I and declare us an interracial couple, which means that we have to deal with everything (good and bad) that goes along with being identified as interracial.</p>
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