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10:53 am
June 9, 2009


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Hi

First off, thank you for a forum where I can get to talk with so many couples in happy inter-cultural relationships.

Second, I wanted to quickly state a brief background before I pose a query:

I am back in India after living in the US and Europe for about 8 years. All this time, I dated some wonderful people from those parts of the world but somehow couldn't commit myself to a serious relationship. The main reason for this was the apprehension – 'Would she be able to live with me in India?'

I am now back and though I get to interact with a lot of nice girls here, I have developed a strong feeling that I would very much want to consider a long term commitment with a European or an American woman. In other words, I am searching for a life partner but don't want to restrict my search to Indian women.

Query: How did you (in an inter-cultural relationship) meet your partner? Feel free to also tell me about some avenues that can be used to meet with people from different cultures here in India.

Thank you Smile

1:42 pm
June 9, 2009


DJain

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posts 88

Hmm, I'm not sure how you'd meet someone like that in India.  I think there are at least a few women on this or other intercultural forums who met their Indian spouses when they were working at the same company.

I met my husband when we were both in grad school, at a bar (yes, I never dreamed I'd meet my future hubby at a bar, ack!).  I was out with a girlfriend and she had met my future husband's friend the night before, so when she saw them she called them over to our table.  Future husband started talking to me and offered to buy me a drink, which I refused (and he liked that–most women he'd met were just looking for free drinks).  He asked me about my career plans and I said that I was interested in a job that I enjoyed but that I was more interested in having a family (he liked that too).  Honestly, I wasn't all that friendly to him–just made polite conversation–because I was sick of guys chatting me up in bars, but he was quite persistent.  I gave him my number, and we started talking, and he was really interesting, and the rest is history!Laugh

I think the women you're likely to meet in India are probably already pretty open to other cultures/living abroad.  Don't worry, the right one will come along when you least expect it (cliche as that sounds)!

6:25 pm
June 9, 2009


YP

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I think the women you're likely to meet in India are probably already pretty open to other cultures/living abroad.  Don't worry, the right one will come along when you least expect it (cliche as that sounds)!

Or not.  Most people do have to work at finding a wife or husband, and that is what arranged marriage is all about.  They don't leave anything to "chance" or "luck". 

My advice to Shanulk is to go to the ex-pat gathering places in your city.  For example; ex-pats from USA living in New Delhi even have a website.  There are clubs, organizations and gatherings for ex-pats from various countries in various Indian metropolises.  Somehow get in and get to know people. 

7:09 pm
June 9, 2009


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Thank you, DJain and YP for your great insights.

DJain, a friend of mine had never gone to a bar or a nightclub. His were the kind of parents they depict in 60s bollywood movies – very orthodox. It so happened one night that he had a couple of drinks and went to a nightclub with other friends (in Dallas). There he found the girl he had been yearning to be with all his life! In that sense, 'The right one comes along when we least expect them to'. You are also right in mentioning that the people visiting India would probably already be quite broadminded.

But I'll have to agree with YP that to be EXTRA sure, I think I would probably want to make an effort towards finding my better half. This, for the simple reason that I'll probably increase my chances of coming across the right one if I am searching proactively.

YP, I'll try and see if I can get to one of these meet-ups and I'll keep you both posted Smile

7:16 pm
June 9, 2009


DJain

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Post edited 7:17 pm – June 9, 2009 by DJain


x-post with Shanulk

Well, of course.  You're obviously not leaving it to “chance” or “luck” if you go places where people with similar educations and backgrounds hang out–such as the mostly-grad-student bar that my husband and I met at.  I wasn't looking for a guy the night that I met him, but that doesn't change the fact that I was hanging out in a place where other grad students and international students–the kind of guys I found the most interesting–hung out.  I don't think that chance or luck would have brought my husband to me if I'd just been sitting at home and waiting!

Shanulk, I do agree that you should look for places where ex-pats hang out.  Look for common interests.

9:23 pm
June 9, 2009


LMD

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Hmmm…well I met my boy while at my friends birthday party! I was so sick of going out with the same group of friends that the one night I decided to go out with another group of friends. That night I ran into him. ( I mean not literally..) but I had been kind of keeping my eye on him since we arrived there and had the goal of talking to him that night. I got up my courage and walked over to him but chickened out! Thankfully he said hi first! So yeah, thats how we met….

SO yes I was lucky that I went to this party that night and it was chance that he was there! A year and 1/2 later we still think about how I almost went to that other party instead of this birthday party! And I guess I did make an effort of finding my boy by going up to him and talking to him..(or going up and then veering to the right but then caught off gaurd when he said hi) haha. so all in all i agree with yall's postings!

and DJain! so funny! my neighbor (newly married) met her husband at a bar and actually was so intoxicated she spilled her drink on him by accident. Funny how things happen that way, it makes for a good story! Smile

10:21 pm
June 9, 2009


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more success stories in bars and parties!

i wonder if any of you are in Mumbai, that'll help me get a good idea of bars and nightclubs there. I hate the night life in Delhi (scope for another toppic? Confused) but don't know much about Mumbai.

I think I'll also join special interest groups, if there are any. A little over 8 years ago, I registered with MENSA in Kolkata but there were mainly nerds attending geek-ly meetings there.

9:12 am
June 10, 2009


D

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I met G freshman year of college. We did a musical together, and he started walking me back to my dorm after practice (even though my floormate was also in the musical, so I was never walking home alone anyway…and we went to a really tiny, safe school where it was fine to walk around by yourself in the middle of the night) and calling me in the middle of the night to see if I was going to our biology class the next day. After a few weeks, he charmed me into thinking this was cute crush behavior, not creepy stalker behavior, and we started seeing each other. It's been 11 years and I still think he's adorable! Laugh 

As an aside, I would not recommend anyone else try G's tactic because most people probably would think it was pretty creepy for someone to follow them home and call them at all hours of the night.

Sorry, Shanulk, I can't help you with ideas about meeting people in India. I think joining groups is a good way to meet like-minded people anywhere, though. Good luck!

9:51 am
June 10, 2009


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thank you, D!

It is a delight to know that most gori-desi marriages do very well. Also wanted to add a small note – it is absolutely not true that all desi men desire to be with submissive meek women. Thats probably the biggest myth. Most of my guy friends would love to have a woman who would challenge them to do their best as a husband and as a human being.

Congrats and all the best to all.

10:56 am
June 10, 2009


Jenn23

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I agree with DJain that you could meet the right person when you least expect it. My boyfriend of 21 months moved into the townhouse right next door. We chatted here and there (2 minute conversations) for about three months and then Labor Day night (2007), we spent four hours talking outside! We became friends and after about two weeks he asked me out to dinner and the rest is history. I never in my wildest dreams thought I'd meet somebody this way! And I must say we were both cautious in the beginning because we realized if it didn't work out, we'd still see each other every day, since we were neighbors. I'm so glad we didn't let that stop us! Plus, it made for interesting conversation with all the neighbors (we have a great group of friendly neighbors on our street). The smiles and questioning looks we got from all of them the first few months were just too funny….

But I would definately put yourself out there and try to meet women in these groups you mentioned. Sounds great!

10:56 am
June 10, 2009


Jenn23

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I agree with DJain that you could meet the right person when you least expect it. My boyfriend of 21 months moved into the townhouse right next door. We chatted here and there (2 minute conversations) for about three months and then Labor Day night (2007), we spent four hours talking outside! We became friends and after about two weeks he asked me out to dinner and the rest is history. I never in my wildest dreams thought I'd meet somebody this way! And I must say we were both cautious in the beginning because we realized if it didn't work out, we'd still see each other every day, since we were neighbors. I'm so glad we didn't let that stop us! Plus, it made for interesting conversation with all the neighbors (we have a great group of friendly neighbors on our street). The smiles and questioning looks we got from all of them the first few months were just too funny….

But I would definately put yourself out there and try to meet women in these groups you mentioned. Sounds great!

11:48 am
June 10, 2009


YP

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shanulk said:

thank you, D!

It is a delight to know that most gori-desi marriages do very well. Also wanted to add a small note – it is absolutely not true that all desi men desire to be with submissive meek women. Thats probably the biggest myth. Most of my guy friends would love to have a woman who would challenge them to do their best as a husband and as a human being.

Congrats and all the best to all.


Well, most of the desi-gori marriages I know of have ended.  But the demographics are different than the folks here.

12:19 pm
June 10, 2009


DJain

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Really, YP?  Why do you think that is?  And what were the demographics of those marriages? 

I did see a depressing comment on Sharell's blog by a desi guy in an unhappy marriage with a white woman.  There are definitely challenges, but what marriage doesn't have them?  I do know of at least two gori/desi marriages that are successful even after 30 years (one is a prof at our university, the other is a couple in my uncle's neighborhood).

3:15 pm
June 10, 2009


YP

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DJain said:

Really, YP?  Why do you think that is?  And what were the demographics of those marriages? 

I did see a depressing comment on Sharell's blog by a desi guy in an unhappy marriage with a white woman.  There are definitely challenges, but what marriage doesn't have them?  I do know of at least two gori/desi marriages that are successful even after 30 years (one is a prof at our university, the other is a couple in my uncle's neighborhood).


The demographics I am seeing here are all University educated professionals marrying other University educated professionals and that is not the demographic of desi-nondesi marriages that I have been exposed to in my life.

4:41 pm
June 10, 2009


mocroidh

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posts 13

Here's another avenue for you: my husband and I met via an online dating site.  Match.com, to be exact – it's probably the biggest in the U.S., though there are many others out there.  He contacted me first, and I must admit that initially I wasn't really looking for an intercultural relationship – not that I was opposed to the idea, but it wasn't at the forefront of my thoughts either.  But he was so charming and funny in his emails that I decided to respond, and we began sending emails and eventually decided to meet in person.  The rest is, as they say, history… :)

Now, I'm not sure whether you'd find a lot of non-Indians on a site like Shadi.com, and I don't know whether sites like Match.com are limited to people in the U.S. (I would imagine so).  But it might be worth doing a little research/exploring nonetheless!

11:24 pm
June 10, 2009


Auroracoda

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Bear and I met through work while he was here in the States.  Although I already knew him when I did visit India, we weren't together at that time…barely friends actually!  I wish we would have known each other better then, I would have loved to explore with him.

I know that there are International dating sites as during my research I found numerous cases of people meeting online who were from different European countries. 

I think what DJain said is pretty spot on…while you have to keep your eyes open and look around you, join groups for activities that you enjoy and that sort of thing…love just kind of happens when you least expect it!

I certainly wasn't expecting to meet my future husband through work!

7:56 am
June 11, 2009


DJain

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Dating sites, that's a great idea–you should try that, Shanulk!

That's pretty interesting, YP.  And it kind of goes along with what I was expecting.  I have a theory about that.  As I've gone through my education (bachelor's and master's in English) and getting older, I've gone from being really hardheaded and thinking I knew it all–to realizing just how much there still is to learn, and what interesting things there are in the world to learn/experience.  I started out my bachelor's thinking I knew so much about literature, for example, but finished realizing I'd barely scratched the surface, which is why I went on to get my master's.  And that still only got me so much deeper into what I could say for sure that I "know." 

I think it's the same when it comes to relationships/dealing with other cultures.  If you're younger, or less educated, it's easier to be really hardheaded and refusing to budge.  But with more education/world experience, you realize that there's so much to learn and be open to learning about.  So I think that university-educated professionals are more likely to be willing to learn and compromise with each other.  Maybe I'm completely off-base, but that's just my theory.

11:36 am
June 11, 2009


Auroracoda

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I just ran a quick search on Google for "international dating websites" and a whole plethora of them came up!  Including Match.com/International!

http://www.match.com/international/index.aspx

international-dating.whoo.net

mydatingplaces.com

http://www.eradating.com

Just to name a few…however, be careful!  Especially if they want you to pay for the service!  There are plenty that are free or allow a free version of membership.  However there are just as many good paying sites that work as there are paying sites which turn out to be rip offs.  Do your research first.  However, I'm fairly certain match.com is a good place to begin. 

Good luck!  I hope you find your "one"!

Laugh

12:44 pm
June 13, 2009


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Thank you DJain, Auroracoda, YP and others. I am sorry I couldn't respond earlier since I had been busy with the relocation from Shimla to Mumbai. I am flying out tomorrow.

Since I am in India now, internet might not be the best way to go about it since I guess people prefer being 'out and about' rather than working through their dating sites registrations. I am passionate about the mountains, the himalayas in particular, and have always fantasized about showing other people the mystique and breathtaking views my terrain has to offer. Later this year I plan to start a trekking club and that hopefully should get me acquianted with likeminded people.

Meanwhile, I've had a very tough (and very due) talk with my father who thinks marrying outside the 'roots' would be a bad idea. We've reached a point where I've stopped reasoning and he has stopped bringing up the topic of marriage. Its like a tug of war with neither side chosing to apply any force to their respective ends of the rope! Frown

9:26 am
June 14, 2009


YP

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DJain said:

Dating sites, that's a great idea–you should try that, Shanulk!

That's pretty interesting, YP.  And it kind of goes along with what I was expecting.  I have a theory about that.  As I've gone through my education (bachelor's and master's in English) and getting older, I've gone from being really hardheaded and thinking I knew it all–to realizing just how much there still is to learn, and what interesting things there are in the world to learn/experience.  I started out my bachelor's thinking I knew so much about literature, for example, but finished realizing I'd barely scratched the surface, which is why I went on to get my master's.  And that still only got me so much deeper into what I could say for sure that I “know.” 

I think it's the same when it comes to relationships/dealing with other cultures.  If you're younger, or less educated, it's easier to be really hardheaded and refusing to budge.  But with more education/world experience, you realize that there's so much to learn and be open to learning about.  So I think that university-educated professionals are more likely to be willing to learn and compromise with each other.  Maybe I'm completely off-base, but that's just my theory.


Actually, in the cases I'm thinking of, you are off base.  In the cases that I know of, the goris were all part of a Hindu sects for years, and some of them had lived in India, for years.  They were about as "desi" as a "non-desi" can get.  And I'm not talking the neuvo-riche sort of cosmopolitan desi, I'm talking village/small town/old customs.  They conformed to it all.  They had to in order to survive in their environs.

But despite being sometimes "more desi" than their "desi" hubbies, still, the relationships did not survive.  In some cases the women were more dharmic/religious/spiritual/whatever-you-want-to-call-it than their desi husbands and that is what broke them up.  Anyway, I've seen a lot of issues arise in these pairings.  There were other issues too.  Anyway, it seems that the working, upwardly mobile and materially motivated couples do just fine. 

6:09 am
June 15, 2009


DJain

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That's really interesting, YP.  I've never met any women like that, or couples like that. 

8:07 am
June 15, 2009


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YP, you have no idea what I would give for a woman like that!

Hmmm…on second thoughts, I'd just love it if she were only honest, sensitive, genuine and sweet Embarassed

9:49 am
June 15, 2009


YP

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shanulk said:

YP, you have no idea what I would give for a woman like that!

Hmmm…on second thoughts, I'd just love it if she were only honest, sensitive, genuine and sweet Embarassed


Actually I wouldn't recommned women like that to Indian men.  They tend to be very detached (renounced) from family life due to their spiritual focus.  They often do not want to have children, though some of them did.  They are more like yoginis than dharma patnis.  Perhaps by "dharmic" I gave the wrong impression.  I would say more "vairagi" than "dharmic".

Think along the lines of a free sort of hippie mentality without the sex and drugs with hardcore spirituality/religion mixed in.

7:16 am
June 16, 2009


minu

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posts 12

My husband and I met online.  He was in India and I was in Canada.  I still remember the day he sent me a message….I replied back that I wasn't interested, he lived too far away.  He wrote back that maybe we could chat–I didn't have a problem with that, and well the rest is history! 

I went to India to get married to him, and then sponsored him to come live in Canada.  We have been married 3 years, and things have worked out really well.  So I would recommend online dating….as long as everyone is honest then it can work.

Good luck!

7:06 pm
June 16, 2009


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I see what you mean, YP.

I am trying to settle down in Mumbai and I must say its taking a big effort. Very different from what I thought it would be, after living al these years away from India I thought things might have improved here but the roads, dirt, attitude of the people is just the same in some places. Its also quite amazing that in the north you have very pure and pristine places at the same time, I am missing Shimla more than I am missing London. I don't think anyone from Europe or the US would want to live in such 'busy' places as Mumbai, so I've shelved my search-for-a-bride program for now.

2:12 pm
June 22, 2009


fightingback

California

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Hey shanulk, don't give up! Laugh I met my boyfriend online on OkCupid.com. We are both finishing school and live close to each other so it was an easy match. I also was hesitant to reply to his messages but his charm won me over LOL. This site is totally free and there are people on there from all countries. Just check it out, you never know.

2:12 pm
June 22, 2009


fightingback

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Post edited 2:15 pm – June 22, 2009 by fightingback


sorry-double-post

7:23 am
June 27, 2009


Manveri

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Reading the posts here i really don't feel quite as unorthodox as i usually do about the way my boyfriend and I met. Normally i cringe at the 'so how did you guys meet' question which pops up a lot when you're in a relationship like ours. I was just bored one day with nothing to do so i decided to strike up a random conversation on icq, which was really big at the time. I basically just wanted to kill some time. Instead, i found someone who i felt instantly comfortable with and wanted to get to know better. That happened. Unfortunately, no one else who came into my life equalled or got even close to him and he felt the same so we decided to make a relationship work (initially working around the 5000 miles - 4,933 miles to be precise – between us).

We always laugh and say that if there's one thing me and G have going, it's communication. The foundations of our friendship and love were built online. We don't have a problem talking to each other and i think that has really helped us manage an intercultural relationship. Both the comfortable and the uncomfortable, we're not afraid to talk openly and honestly about what we're thinking about, what concerns us or what makes us nervous about our relationship.

7:06 am
June 30, 2009


heather

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We met at work. B's a phd student and I'm a librarian at the university. I had been asked out by many students before  and WOULD NEVER EVER date one. ha. Oh not that I'm super hot or anything but a lot of lonely engineers here and I might just be the one of the only women that speaks to them!

We were facebook friends and a stupid status message about another indian man breaking my heart (that I met on okcupid). He just wanted to help me so I wouldn't get hurt again but we fell for each other. We resisted because we worked together. I didn't tell my colleagues for a long time and still it's only my boss and a few friends that know. I wouldn't want students to know I'm dating one. But there's a big difference between an undergrad and a phd student.  I called the union to see if it was ok, thinking it would probably jinx me by saying it. We didn't want to make things weird at work. but we couldn't resist it and look what happened! we're nuts about each other and his family is thrilled and we even matched 32 of 36 in indian astrology.

Shanulk, don't shelve it. wait actually do – because when you aren't looking it'll happen. And you'll receive what you put out there, so iif you put the energy out there that where you live is no place for your future wife, then it's not going to happen.  For B, I'd live anywhere. Of course I've yet to visit Mumbai, and am relieved he never wants to live there, but when you find love, you'll do amazing things.  Have you looked at this woman's blog. She lives in Mumbai. http://www.whiteindianhousewife.com/

8:52 am
June 30, 2009


Pale_Desi

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posts 31

Heather -  How do you find out about the Indian Astrology?  Is that something the parents do?

10:00 am
June 30, 2009


Jenn23

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posts 93

Heather, I'm curious about the astrology too. I know my bf's parents will be speaking to somebody about what date to choose for the wedding? I haven't looked into this too much yet-need to read up on this. I know astrology is deemed important, although my bf said his parents aren't into it too much. I'm anxious to hear about this astrology match! :) I'd be curious to check this out, just for kicks.

10:00 am
June 30, 2009


Jenn23

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Post edited 10:01 am – June 30, 2009 by Jenn23


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