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10:04 am May 11, 2009
| Gori Girl
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So, Aditya and I have been flip-flopping on which language I shoudl learn first: Hindi & Bengali. Bengali is more useful for talking with his family (it's the language most family conversations take place in), but is more difficult to learn, and only widely spoken in West Bengal. Also, it's not as regular in the grammer and spelling as Hindi. Hindi is more useful across India, and there are more language learning resources available.
Well, I've finally decided to work on my Hindi, since there's a Rosetta Stone course for the language, and I think Rosetta Stone's software matches up pretty well with my learning style. So far, I've only completed the first lesson. And troubles already: elephant is freaking impossible to say. IM-POSS-I-BLE, I tell yah.
Anyone else using Rosetta Stone? Anyone else have elephant troubles?
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5:33 pm May 11, 2009
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I have also recently begun to try to learn Hindi. I am using a system that I think is similar to Rosetta Stone. It's called Living Language. I am visiting India (for the second time) at the end of October with my significant other. I hope by that time I will be able to communicate more with his family, specifically his mother.
There was a website listed in my book that I found helfpul. It was http://www.avashy.com/hindiscr…..ttutor.htm. Hope that helps!
Amanda
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8:56 am May 12, 2009
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G and I have been discussing getting Rosetta Stone, but we wish it wasn't so darn expensive! (Even though it is less expensive than taking classes.) I think we might go in on it with my BIL, since he also wants to learn Hindi. We decided we're definitely doing it before the next trip to India, but it'll be another few years before then. Keep us updated on your progress; I'd love to hear a non-infomercial review of the product.
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4:33 pm May 12, 2009
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I tried Rosetta stone and my boyfriend did not like it. He didn't like how it was teaching CLASSIC Hindi. ie. shakepearan english. In the first lesson you learn airplane in Hindi and he thought that no one would really use that word and recognize the Hindi… so just say airplane.
I liked the Rosetta stone though and I thought it was kind of fun. It's not easy, you have to turn on your brain to use it, but it's not rocket science.
I gave up since the family would rather have me knowing Gujarati than Hindi. It seems they move between Hindi, Gujarati, and English. I wish I could really learn them all together. My boyfriend just teaches me phrases. I need to work harder!
Wouldn't mind sharing my copy before you lay down the money. I torrented it. I never torrent since or before.
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7:25 pm May 17, 2009
| Pale_Desi
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HAHA Gori Girl. I feel your pain on the speaking section. I could say elephant fine. However after spending a half hour each of trying to say horse and woman I have kind of lost interest. Especially when my Indian friends have told me I'm pretty close on both of those words.
I really do need to learn Hindi though. I guess I'll just try all of the sections except for speaking… or at least not spend so much time on the speaking… Gosh even after 4 years of French I couldn't really pronounce things right. So I guess its better to focus on everything else?
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5:08 pm May 18, 2009
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Oh man Yall! Sometimes I wish that my boy spoke Hindi so it would be easier to get to all these learning programs! Its hard to find a "How to learn Punjabi for dummies" kind of book ya know? So at this point I am just trying to go by word of mouth. ..
And yes, I agree with heather when she says that R.S. only offers the "older" speaking style. I learned Italian on Rosetta and when I started learning Italian from my friends they taught me all different slangs and stufff, so much easier than the Rosetta Stone version! And also, Hindi/Punjabi/Indian languages are all in script, so that makes me very difficult to learn! Anyone agree?
Well I am determined to learn and be some-what fluent in punjabi when I return from my trip to India after I finish my studies. Or before I have kids because my boy wants our kids to speak english and punjabi. And Im not letting my kids say stuff I dont understand! LOL.
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8:16 am May 20, 2009
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re: "older" language. I'm not surprised that RS is very formal. Isn't that what any class/learning tool is going to teach you? I certainly didn't learn any slang in the 6 years of Spanish classes I took. At least it'll give you a background in the language, and then the native speakers you know can fill in the rest.
I was wondering if RS used Devanagari script. I agree, that would make it very difficult to learn–how are you supposed to sound things out? G's community put together a god-awful textbook and CD of their language and the only good thing about it is that they don't use script in the book. (The only other good thing about it is the hilarious scenarios of the conversations. One chapter has a mother and daughter arguing about how the mother wants the daughter to practice her bharatanatyam and the daughter wants to do her homework first.)
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10:51 am May 21, 2009
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Rosetta Stone uses Devanagari script – and I think it's really worthwhile to make the effort to learn the script, if only because it helps you learn the lanuage better, and would be more helpful once in India. I linked to a couple of sites that focus on just teaching the script on the Hindi Learning topic.
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8:42 pm May 21, 2009
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Elephant (which I assume is the same in Hindi and Urdu – Hathi) was my son's first Urdu word, and also his first word that he knew in both languages and could translate…
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4:10 pm June 8, 2009
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We had a similiar discussion and I've decided to learn Hindi, even though my husband's family never speaks Hindi at home, only Marathi. I figure there are enough words that are the same (or close to the same) that if I actually ever became fluent in Hindi, I could pick up some Marathi fairly easily.
R.S. does use the Devanagari script, but, honestly, I find that much easier than trying to use the transliterated phrases in another book I have. I mean, there's really no way to distinguish between the 4 "d" and "t" letters if you use the English alphabet.. and you really NEED to distinguish between them.
That being said, I don't really think anyone will ever get too far with R.S. – you learn how to describe events but not really converse with everyday language – at least, that's my feeling. However, I do think it is a useful starting-off point.
One thing we did was purchase a Hindi children's classroom poster with the alphabet at a store in L.A. (like the kind you would see in a kindergarten classroom "A" is for "apple" with a picture of an apple, for example, except that "aah" is for "anaar," with a big picture of a pomegranate). I hung the poster in my kitchen and my husband helped me learn some of the words… then when I sat there stirring food or whatever (i cook a lot) I would stare at it until it started to sink in. I found it very helpful.
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8:28 pm June 8, 2009
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May I recommend Sanskrit
All north Indian languages are 100% sanskrit descended
and south Indian languages are 65% sanskrit descended
Most words in Indian languages have sanskrit roots
It uses Devnagari script, and is close to hindi
Sanskrit could be considered Hindi ++
It may also likely make better impression on in-laws
There are short courses ( 2 months for Sanskrit ) by mail
Some other plus points
You can figure out what Indian names mean
Aditya means Sun God
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8:35 pm June 8, 2009
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Uh, that's like learning Classical Latin & Old German to understand English. Aditya studied Sanskrit for eight years in school – and it has helped him understand most North Indian lanuages – but he also grew up moving around India, and spoke Hindi & Bengali in the home first. Without that, Sanskrit would not have been helpful.
Also, those statistics don't make any sense; languages are not "descended" in the way that you're implying.
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11:36 am June 9, 2009
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Gori Girl said:
elephant is freaking impossible to say. IM-POSS-I-BLE, I tell yah.
Anyone else using Rosetta Stone? Anyone else have elephant troubles?
Elephant was fine…I was ok with Elephant. It took me about 5,000 repeats but I got it. My issue is the 'H' sound and also…I haven not yet mastered how to say Horse. When I say Horse it comes out sounding like the hindi word for Ball. :( :(
I made it through the second lesson and it was going pretty good but I haven't done it recently and need to get back on the 'gend' (which I say as gained or GAind or gayNd). Kill me now.
WHY CAN'T I GET SOME OF THIS??? I used to get A's in french! Blah!

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8:56 am June 18, 2009
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hehe..
its funny to hear these kind of stories.
I can imagine now how difficult it will be for a new person to learn hindi.
For the last one year, I am learning german and still find it difficult to pronounce umlauts.
Btw, whenever i speak in any indian language, i mix it with english words. You can always say 'elephant'.
log understand karega.………………….
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6:54 pm August 8, 2009
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Gori Girl- sounds like you and I are in the same boat (my fiancee is Bengali). I started with Hindi because I thought it would be more widely spoken but I found when I traveled to India they spoke mainly the regional language (Kanada) so the few bits of Hindi I knew were only used to entertain my fiancees sister's friends. (larke nahi dayka kya?- what my fiancee taught me to say to any over-interested parties while traveling in India…..haha)
I purchased a book and cd for hindi called Teach Yourself- beginner's hindi. Its pretty good I guess. I know lots of basic words, but they dont' really show you hot to put them together. I can count to 10 and know lots of small words. Because I have never learned any foreign language I am really slow to catch on and of course the unusual sounds used in Indian languages aren't helping….
Does Rosetta stone have Bengali? does anyone know? I need to kick in the learning and think that Bengali will be most useful for my need.
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7:10 pm January 12, 2010
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Well, I've finally decided to work on my Hindi, since there's a Rosetta Stone course for the language, and I think Rosetta Stone's software matches up pretty well with my learning style.
Gori Girl,
Can you give an update on how much you like Rosetta Stone Hindi after using it for awhile? I saw your post about the different resources for Hindi you are using and the timeline for when which was going to be used. I imagine it is far superior to a lot of the freebies online, but beyond that, how is it?
I'm really working on Tamil, but as you have noticed too, Hindi would be more useful for the rest of India… Apparently I can get airline miles if I follow the right links to get to the Rosetta Stone page, and they are having a small sale right now. I need a better reason to shell out the money than that! Haha.
Jenny
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8:46 am May 28, 2010
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Gori Girl said:
So far, I've only completed the first lesson. And troubles already: elephant is freaking impossible to say. IM-POSS-I-BLE, I tell yah.
Hey,
I'm new to Gori Girl, just registered. :) I'm white a American girl dating a Nepali guy. I studied abroad in Nepal and to help us with pronunciation, the teachers would show us where to put the tongue and how to position the lips for the sounds in Nepali that aren't found in English. You might be able to find pictures online or on youtube. Or your hubby or other Hindi-speaking friends might be able to model the shape of the mouth.
I definitely have trouble with the t's and d's in Nepali (which are probably pretty similar in Hindi). There are four different, distinct ways to pronounce a 't' sound in Nepali. ट ठ त थ In English, I think we only use two of those sounds, and we don't differentiate between them.
Anyway, good luck! I hope this helps.
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10:01 am May 30, 2010
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I am sad that Rosetta Stone doesn't seem to have a Gujarati edition. I would buy that, because I need to work on my vocabulary and grammar. I'm at that awkward point where I can understand nearly everything everyone says, but I can rarely put a sentence together. It's frustrating.
Been watching a lot of Hindi movies though, and I'm finding that I understand pretty well. I think older movies might be easier to understand — at least, I'm having better luck with Sholay than I did with Dhoom 2. Maybe movie characters used to speak more slowly or less slangily and that's why it's easier. Makes it hard to switch back to English, though — last night I almost got in my friends' car and said "Maaf karo yaar, ham Sholay dekh rahe the to doorbell nahi suna." Probably would have been ok, though — she speaks Hindi but I don't think he does.
I got to that point by actually taking a college class in Hindi, though, and there aren't any such classes available in Gujarati around here. I am thinking of getting a weekly tutor after all the wedding stuff settles down. My guy can help me practice, but he isn't a teacher, you know?
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